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Post by acookertv on Feb 6, 2020 13:24:43 GMT
It's the same way that some people love the feel of riding a motorcycle on the open road, and others would much prefer to be in a car. I grew up on the great lakes and while my family was not into boating, I was around a lot of boating. I always had this image that sailing was serene and relaxing while motor boats were intense. So it's kind of funny seeing the differences between a motor yacht and a sailing yacht and realizing it's quite the opposite!
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Post by JustJuls on Feb 6, 2020 19:03:46 GMT
Looks to me like they need better ways of keeping things tied down or harnessed while they are sailing.
I would not enjoy it one bit. Give me a luxury yacht any day!
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Post by JustJuls on Feb 11, 2020 7:57:32 GMT
I'm gonna sound like Chris Harrison for a second. That was THE most DRAMATIC Below Deck reunion EVER. I enjoyed every second
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Post by acookertv on Feb 11, 2020 10:29:30 GMT
Totally agree! I don't recall there ever being enough material for a Below Deck reunion to justify two parts! I was nice to see that Kyle had whipped up a little humble pie and was able to own some of his contributions to problems ... too bad he didn't share the dish with the other guys. Ashton when he started threatening action if the defaming his name didn't stop was rich!
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Post by momrek06 on Feb 11, 2020 16:55:55 GMT
Totally agree! I don't recall there ever being enough material for a Below Deck reunion to justify two parts! I was nice to see that Kyle had whipped up a little humble pie and was able to own some of his contributions to problems ... too bad he didn't share the dish with the other guys. Ashton when he started threatening action if the defaming his name didn't stop was rich! acookertv I am thinking you mean Kevin. I AGREE. He did seem sincere with his apologies. But the CAPT was right, Kevin running to Brian about Courtney's conversations with Simone and Kate was wrong. Mind.Your.Own. Business.Kevin. And despite the p**is cake being an epic fail .... appears as though it was delicious. Brian got the beat down from Courtney and I am glad. She looked beautiful. Actually I thought everyone looked wonderful!!! JustJuls very dramatic Abby was back and she looked adorable. Her hair looked lovely as did her dress. And she appears very happy with her new husband. Next week will be awesome.
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Post by acookertv on Feb 11, 2020 18:34:56 GMT
You're right - Kevin. Thanks for the correction! I thought it was interesting last night when Kate kind of dismissed the idea of girl code keeping her away from Tanner because that's yachting. I hadn't thought about it that way, but it made sense. The whole premise of the show to begin with was the challenge of living in such close quarters with your co-workers when they are also you're only social outlet. So applying the rules of real life to what they do is kind of unrealistic. Seeing how Kevin (not Kyle!) and Kate were able to get along better shows how much of a factor the close quarters are. IF they were in a normal work environment and were able to escape each ohter for many hours each day, they probably would have worked better together. That also shows even more what a puny person Ashton is. To have so much time away from everyone and STILL carry so much anger, defensiveness and blame makes him look even worse to me.
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Post by JustJuls on Feb 11, 2020 19:09:44 GMT
I REALLY enjoyed the "smackdown" Brian got from Courtney. He deserved every second of it. And yet he STILL didn't "get it." He couldn't really fathom that what he said and HOW he said it came off as controlling. I enjoyed the conversations between Kevin and Kate. They both seemed to own up to their own faults in the relationship. I was impressed at how Kate complimented him ...because we all know she doesn't do that often If they ever work together again perhaps it will be different. It IS obvious that Captain Lee takes Kates side with EVERYTHING. And you know what...I'm totally ok with that
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Post by acookertv on Feb 11, 2020 19:25:13 GMT
I REALLY enjoyed the "smackdown" Brian got from Courtney. He deserved every second of it. And yet he STILL didn't "get it." He couldn't really fathom that what he said and HOW he said it came off as controlling. I enjoyed the conversations between Kevin and Kate. They both seemed to own up to their own faults in the relationship. I was impressed at how Kate complimented him ...because we all know she doesn't do that often If they ever work together again perhaps it will be different. It IS obvious that Captain Lee takes Kates side with EVERYTHING. And you know what...I'm totally ok with that I think that what many of the others did not understand in seeing Capt Lee's favoritism of Kate is that Capt Lee recognizes that Kate's level of experience is heads and tails over the rest of them. Ashton was learning to be a Bosun for the first time. Other crew members were still getting used to yachting. Kate can do it with her eyes closed and while sleeping. She does not require training and makes the job easy for him, so he goes easier on her. I thought the whole discussion with Simone was interesting, and showed I think that Simone had unrealistic expectations of the job. She wanted Kate to be focused on developing her, and didn't appreciate that Kate's primary focus had to be happy passengers. When she was focused on her lack of opportunities to serve dinner - she could not comprehend that Kate had to use the best option for what she had to choose from rather than keeping it fair. If she put Simone on dinner service as often as she did Courtney, the guests would consider dinner lackluster, and their cabins lackluster, and they'd tip less. Everyone was assigned what they did best ... and when Kate gave Simone chances to serve breakfast, lunch or drinks, she was meek in the way she handled it and barely put herself out there to offer things to the guests or ask what they wanted. She didn't earn it, but chose to blame Kate for not deciding to give it to her anyway.
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Post by lonnie on Feb 11, 2020 19:25:15 GMT
I don't think some of the crew likes how the captain seems to take Kate's side, even when she's in the wrong.
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Post by JustJuls on Feb 11, 2020 20:48:06 GMT
I REALLY enjoyed the "smackdown" Brian got from Courtney. He deserved every second of it. And yet he STILL didn't "get it." He couldn't really fathom that what he said and HOW he said it came off as controlling. I enjoyed the conversations between Kevin and Kate. They both seemed to own up to their own faults in the relationship. I was impressed at how Kate complimented him ...because we all know she doesn't do that often If they ever work together again perhaps it will be different. It IS obvious that Captain Lee takes Kates side with EVERYTHING. And you know what...I'm totally ok with that I think that what many of the others did not understand in seeing Capt Lee's favoritism of Kate is that Capt Lee recognizes that Kate's level of experience is heads and tails over the rest of them. Ashton was learning to be a Bosun for the first time. Other crew members were still getting used to yachting. Kate can do it with her eyes closed and while sleeping. She does not require training and makes the job easy for him, so he goes easier on her. I thought the whole discussion with Simone was interesting, and showed I think that Simone had unrealistic expectations of the job. She wanted Kate to be focused on developing her, and didn't appreciate that Kate's primary focus had to be happy passengers. When she was focused on her lack of opportunities to serve dinner - she could not comprehend that Kate had to use the best option for what she had to choose from rather than keeping it fair. If she put Simone on dinner service as often as she did Courtney, the guests would consider dinner lackluster, and their cabins lackluster, and they'd tip less. Everyone was assigned what they did best ... and when Kate gave Simone chances to serve breakfast, lunch or drinks, she was meek in the way she handled it and barely put herself out there to offer things to the guests or ask what they wanted. She didn't earn it, but chose to blame Kate for not deciding to give it to her anyway. Exactly. This wasn't a "How To" course in yachting. You were expected to be of a certain level. And if you weren't....you do the job that you ARE able to perform well at. Obviously Simone never should have been appointed 2nd stew.
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Post by acookertv on Feb 11, 2020 22:37:07 GMT
Kate really didn't have a second stew -she had two stews with about the same amount of experience - one more in serving and one more in housekeeping. I can totally understand Simone's desire to get a variety of experience but she went about it the wrong way. You don't tell a chief stew you rock at laundry and to give you all the laundry and then get mad when she listens to you. She would have been smarter to tell Kate she was great at laundry and could do what was needed, but really wanted to get more experience in charter guest facing tasks. That would have allowed Kate to have a conversation about how to get that experience with lunch and breakfast, working her way up to dinner. Simone took everything Kate did personally, when Kate was just trying to complete a list of tasks that had to get done for them to all get good tips.
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Post by JoRyMom on Feb 11, 2020 22:55:53 GMT
I REALLY enjoyed the "smackdown" Brian got from Courtney. He deserved every second of it. And yet he STILL didn't "get it." He couldn't really fathom that what he said and HOW he said it came off as controlling. My jaw dropped when he said he got upset because Courtney took the wrong person’s side. Duuuude! You’re right Juls, he STILL didn’t get it after all this time. That was all pretty juicy with the info Riley provided about Tanner’s mom going off on Capt Lee in a private FB group for defaming Tanner’s character in his blog, and how Tanner and his mom have never spoken about his treatment of Simone. So yeah, mom enables her baby boy. And Ashton’s quiet rage was almost frightening. What a disappointment he is. Kevin was the only one who seemed to show any awareness of doing anything wrong, but then again, he’s got the most to lose, I’d think.
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Post by JustJuls on Feb 12, 2020 2:29:25 GMT
Ashton looked as if he was going to burst. I was getting uncomfortable every time the camera would be on him. acookertv ...you are absolutely right. I had totally forgotten that Simone went on & on about how good she was at laundry and that's where she was comfortable. What did she expect?
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Post by mayamaisha on Feb 12, 2020 16:04:50 GMT
Simone is a professional victim. I found her exhausting. She is not as mature as she thinks.
Ashton is horrid. How he tried to discredit Capt Lee & Kate was ridiculous. I am so ready for next week when Ashton is supplied with a new aP$#*&/!
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Post by holly on Feb 12, 2020 21:14:17 GMT
I don't think some of the crew likes how the captain seems to take Kate's side, even when she's in the wrong. I know I sure don’t. He flips a gasket over Kevin telling Brian that Courtney was upset, something that took place in the galley, but hey, no problem with Kate telling Riley what Ashton told Cap. Lee in a management setting. Straight up BS. And I’m so over Kate’s non-apology apologies of “I’m sorry you feel that way.” So condescending. Might sound the ever so slightest bit sincere (even if it’s not) if she said something more like “I’m sorry I made you feel that way.”
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Post by acookertv on Feb 12, 2020 21:48:55 GMT
I wonder if Capt Lee would have given her a pass on that had Andy brought it up. Both incidents are things that Lee did not know about until watching the show, so he doesn't have a chance to Unless it's in part 2, we'll never know. But again, I think that Kate gets a pass on things because she's built up more credit with Capt Lee making life easy for him. So he'll say "she left the boat on an off night and didn't give me any explanation ... but she also solved these four problems, so all in all it's a wash. With Ashton or Kevin, they did not do as much to make things easy for him, so they have less credits do deplete when they piss him off.
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Post by lonnie on Feb 15, 2020 17:23:25 GMT
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Post by JustJuls on Feb 15, 2020 18:12:32 GMT
Those people are the last people on earth that need to get married. They are a disaster.
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Post by acookertv on Feb 15, 2020 23:13:43 GMT
It kind of came across to me like the couple was content to not be married but weee giving in to pressure from friends to make it official. If that’s their reason for getting married I agree they should not!
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Post by JoRyMom on Feb 18, 2020 3:46:03 GMT
Bye Kate.
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Post by acookertv on Feb 18, 2020 10:44:23 GMT
Why do you say that?
I did appreciate Capt Lee calling Ashton out for his BS last night, and thought his walking off was a nice way to make that point. Everytime Ashton talked he came across to me like he'd read a PR handbook listing things that should be said after being caught acting badly. I didn't think he was the slightest bit sincere - only trying to get himself out of hot water. We saw his true colors in the first part when Rhylee and Kate were making suggestions about how he got his current job and he was so quick to demand they be shut down. Kate was right last night that we also saw it when he was questioning Kate and Capt Lee's credentials in the yachting world.
Ashton is a self centered and entitled twit. He expects people to cater to him, and does not know how to handle it when he's challenged. I don't believe he's changed one bit - I think he was arrogant enough to believe that if he talked about self reflection and going to therapy that things would blow over and he could return to his normal way of life.
I am curious as to how this impacts casting for next season. Capt Lee declared that he would not work with Ashton again, and was pretty hesitant to work with Rhylee again. But I would imagine that producers would REALLY like to have some of them back next season to get more of what we got this season. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
On to Sailing Yacht ... I kept on waiting for Kevin to comment on how happy he was that despite all the dietary restrictions he had to work with that he was allowed to cook with onions. After how poorly he handled no onions on Below Deck Med, it was nice to see him really focus on catering to all the expectations he was given.
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Post by lonnie on Feb 18, 2020 17:54:20 GMT
I wouldn't be disappointed if Ashton and Kate both took a break for the next season.
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Post by betty80 on Feb 18, 2020 19:51:51 GMT
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Post by acookertv on Feb 18, 2020 20:29:40 GMT
Boo! Well she certainly laid the bread crumbs that she was heading this way throughout the season. Good for her. If it's not fun for her anymore, she shouldn't do it. I just hope that her leaving doesn't give Capt Lee any ideas!
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Post by JustJuls on Feb 19, 2020 18:09:08 GMT
I will miss Kate, for sure! And like you said...I hope Captain Lee isn't going ANYWHERE. I totally understand why Kate would want to go. This season was horrible for her. Onward and upward for better things for her I hope. acookertv ...you have Kevin on your brain Adam I was proud that he stopped the chief stew (still learning names) from getting in his bed so sloppy drunk and boy WAS SHE? I really like the 2nd stew. Her facial expressions have been cracking me up. I'm still not a fan of the couple. Their dynamic is already annoying to me.
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Post by acookertv on Feb 19, 2020 19:33:10 GMT
Ha! I just need to quit using names for chefs and call each of them "the chef".
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Post by momrek06 on Feb 19, 2020 20:42:52 GMT
Ha! I just need to quit using names for chefs and call each of them "the chef".
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Post by acookertv on Feb 25, 2020 3:58:09 GMT
After a couple of weeks of watching it I’ve come to the conclusion it’s really not necessary to iron bedsheets on the bed twice a day. It’s not even necessary once a day. Or ever.
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Post by JustJuls on Feb 25, 2020 8:03:40 GMT
After a couple of weeks of watching it I’ve come to the conclusion it’s really not necessary to iron bedsheets on the bed twice a day. It’s not even necessary once a day. Or ever. Seriously! But is it just me or does Pagan have a minor crush on Georgia? My experience watching Kate and Hannah makes me understand Jenna chief stew role more. While she isn't exactly my favorite and I actually do like Georgia and Madison a lot, her job is to make sure everything gets done. And Georgia and Madison can complain about the amount of work but this is what they signed up for and they have to work long hours to get it done. Chief Stews have worked their way up their so they know what it takes to get it done and their is no bullsh*t about it. BUT I don't think it's cool Georgia to have to over hear Jenna talk about her to the Chef. At least be discreet
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Post by lonnie on Feb 27, 2020 17:41:28 GMT
I still have to watch the last two episodes. It's taking me a little longer to get into this show than the other below deck ones.
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