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Post by beerbelly on Jul 6, 2021 10:53:58 GMT
Ugh. All Sandy does is lurk around corners and as intently "how's it going?". It's like she has nothing to do.
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Post by downsey on Jul 6, 2021 14:03:22 GMT
Question...when Sandy realized the chef was going to the hospital to get his knee checked and would miss dinner, why wouldn't she have called a caterer/restaurant to supply dinner for the guests? No one on board claimed they could cook. The guests were served food prepared by the serving staff. And then Sandy's creepy "I appreciate you" to the guest "sous chef".
Malia is in full...change her reputation mode. It won't last.
Not sure who on the cast I like or don't like. Lexi (Miss Bahamas) seems like she could be an issue. Didn't like her admission that she flirts with people to get what she wants...or whatever she said. Seems shallow.
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Post by acookertv on Jul 6, 2021 14:09:25 GMT
I wondered the same thing Downsey! I remember back in the season where Leon was the chef and quit midway through a charter, they handled it by sending the guests to a restaurant for one meal, and then having Rocky cook because she had experience with it. I get that this was unique in that the guests were just getting on the yacht and didn't necessarily want to be taken to lunch in the city they were boarding from. But take out / catering should have been an option. Though I'm sure that Sandy would say that COVID maritime law prevented them from bringing unprepared food on board unless it was quarantined for 2 weeks!
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Post by downsey on Jul 6, 2021 15:02:57 GMT
Though I'm sure that Sandy would say that COVID maritime law prevented them from bringing unprepared food on board unless it was quarantined for 2 weeks!
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Post by beerbelly on Jul 6, 2021 15:49:35 GMT
Lol!!!
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Post by JustJuls on Jul 6, 2021 17:42:55 GMT
It felt very scripted in my opinion
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Post by beerbelly on Jul 6, 2021 19:27:54 GMT
Maybe, what struck me is that the chef left the boat to go to a doctor's office and then was on the boat again unmasked. You would have thought, just to ensure that he didn't contact Covid while he was off the boat, that he would get tested, and to be safe, wear a mask until a second test since he is in close contact with others and making food?
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Post by downsey on Jul 20, 2021 15:14:40 GMT
When I saw previews for this week's episode, I thought the "Burn List" was drafted by Matt. Being Lexi's is a bit of a confirmation in my mind that she's going to be a train wreck going forward. The many moods of Lexi will drive people mad.
I worked in restaurants all through Uni. If a server had started eating food during service, in front of a chef/sous chef ect...we would have been stabbed. Chefs are tightly wound, that would have been a trigger. Matt has already shown signs of being a bit twitchy, surprised Lexi's dust pile issue was bigger than her stuffing her face with the guests food.
Upcoming previews. Matt is a bizarre guy. Lexi is entitled. I feel for Katie.
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Post by FireWoman on Jul 20, 2021 18:50:14 GMT
Is anyone watching on Peacock? I do not want to talk about episodes a week early
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Post by acookertv on Jul 20, 2021 19:34:56 GMT
I have not been. I watched the premiere early but haven't since then. I don't like not being able to fast forward through commercials! I do wonder how much of an impact that move has had on the social media buzz the show generates.
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Post by woodiedog on Jul 21, 2021 14:18:19 GMT
Below deck last night was a gross display of human behavior under the influence of alcohol. The crew is disturbing. The chef is a perv. I hope he’s gone for good. Ms Bahama is a mean drunk. I’m glad that there were enough sane people to stop further damage.
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Post by FireWoman on Jul 21, 2021 19:57:04 GMT
Below deck last night was a gross display of human behavior under the influence of alcohol. The crew is disturbing. The chef is a perv. I hope he’s gone for good. Ms Bahama is a mean drunk. I’m glad that there were enough sane people to stop further damage. {Spoiler}
I felt bad for poor Lloyd, Lexi sexually assaulted him at the hot tub! I hope she is gone this coming week, just like Mat looks to be. However, there will be less drama with the crew if they are.
Oh and can I just say, I am WAY Over the use of "daddy" this season.
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Post by downsey on Jul 27, 2021 2:20:16 GMT
oh...I think Canada is a week behind. I was confused by posts last week as though I missed loads of info. I get the mean drunk and pervy chef posts. What a nightmare night off.
Matthew is unstable. Weird dude. Lexy is not a nice human. She should try to be a nicer human.
Poor David. One of us should really try to warn him about Malia.
Katie is in a tough position being the only adult in the room lol
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Post by acookertv on Jul 27, 2021 2:37:09 GMT
The challenge this year Downsey is that they are releasing episodes a week ahead on Peacock and on demand. So some are watching early and others are watching when they air on Bravo. It makes it challenging to discuss!
I’m watching when they air live on Bravo. I think this episode affirmed for the 100th time that Malia does not have the capacity to be a boss. What Lexi and Courtney did to Lloyd was a serious problem. They got physical with him and it was NOT okay. Lloyd was so smart to remove himself from the situation immediately. And while it’s nice that Malia stood up for him she did it all wrong. When she went to Katie, her recap was that they said mean stuff. No, the chief problem was that they both rubbed their breasts in his face! Then, when Katie went to deal with it and she knew it, she created a reason to go out and witness it - and then insert herself more in the conflict. She escalated it and made it harder on Katie. She’s an instigator of the worst kind!
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Post by beerbelly on Jul 27, 2021 22:29:19 GMT
ITA that was so aggressive of Lexi and of course inappropriate and a violation of Lloyd's physical space. I would think that would be grounds for immediate dismissal. How did Malia not see this? Or was that not maritime law?
Lexi should not be on the boat and should be in counseling and working through the anger she has about her dad's death. She is not healthy.
Wait, and that ding-dong of a chef walked out? Before he punched every camera in sight? Ugh.
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Post by acookertv on Jul 28, 2021 1:30:21 GMT
I want a laughing reaction for the maritime law comment!!!
Malia even made a comment on WWHL that had one of her deckhands done that to Courtney or Lexi they’d be fired. So she understood the seriousness. Of course, Katie was unable to react to the seriousness of it because all Malia said was that they SAID mean things.
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Post by woodiedog on Aug 3, 2021 14:19:40 GMT
I don’t find any of the crew likable this season. I think I’m going to pass on the rest of the episodes. When I watch, I wonder what the heck is going on. Seems to be a lot of nasty behavior on board. Cringe worthy.
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Post by acookertv on Aug 3, 2021 14:43:28 GMT
Outside of Lexi and Malia, I like them. And I find Malia to be the kind of person I really enjoy disliking. She just cannot help herself in the way she always will take a bad situation and make it worse! Sandy gave Lexi great advice telling her to be humble and apologize, and not fight anything she was told she did which she didn't remember. Lexi didn't follow the advice as well as Sandy gave it, but she did apologize. Rather than doing what was best for the crew, Malia has to be the queen s-stirrer and convince people that the apology was not enough, putting Katie in the position of doing dirty work yet again. I do wish that Katie would learn to require more detail from Malia before acting on it, but she does not realize yet that Malia does not have anyone's back but her own.
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Post by downsey on Aug 3, 2021 17:49:57 GMT
I found that episode exhausting, I can't imagine how taxing it was for Katie, Mzi, Lloyd, David and Courtney.
Sandy...spewing greeting card wisdom. Katie brought valid complaints to the Cpt about a very disruptive crew member. Like Sandy did with Hannah (and lambasted her for it), she pushed the problem down the road. Lexie has been a cancer for the majority of this season. Sandy is painful to watch.
Malia...I can't stand her. However, if she had lost it and gave Lexi a slap I would have understood. It's a good thing Malia is trying to rebuild her tv persona or we could have seen her nasty side/sneaky side. Malia has never seen a can of gasoline that she didn't have a match for. By far the least problematic of the North Americans but as part of the leadership group, didn't help calm the situation.
Matthew...gross. His dinner convo about his sexual activities and need of a "hooker" was pure cringe. His tantrum and walking off the boat was childish.
Lexie...master manipulator. After all she did...all she said...doubling down on her behaviour and causing so much ill will amongst her colleagues...how does she still have a job? Lexie is a very good looking woman. Seems to be an ok worker. But she is soooooo TOXIC. Calling a black man an Africaans was either ignorant or a massive stab for being adopted by a white family. Reminds me of the Italian that Hannah was having trouble with and Sandy delayed firing until the problem had affected everyone.
I really like the deck crew as well as Katie and Courtney but the rest are brutal.
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Post by acookertv on Aug 3, 2021 18:45:58 GMT
I found that episode exhausting, I can't imagine how taxing it was for Katie, Mzi, Lloyd, David and Courtney. Sandy...spewing greeting card wisdom. Katie brought valid complaints to the Cpt about a very disruptive crew member. Like Sandy did with Hannah (and lambasted her for it), she pushed the problem down the road. Lexie has been a cancer for the majority of this season. Sandy is painful to watch. Malia...I can't stand her. However, if she had lost it and gave Lexi a slap I would have understood. It's a good thing Malia is trying to rebuild her tv persona or we could have seen her nasty side/sneaky side. Malia has never seen a can of gasoline that she didn't have a match for. By far the least problematic of the North Americans but as part of the leadership group, didn't help calm the situation. Matthew...gross. His dinner convo about his sexual activities and need of a "hooker" was pure cringe. His tantrum and walking off the boat was childish. Lexie...master manipulator. After all she did...all she said...doubling down on her behaviour and causing so much ill will amongst her colleagues...how does she still have a job? Lexie is a very good looking woman. Seems to be an ok worker. But she is soooooo TOXIC. Calling a black man an Africaans was either ignorant or a massive stab for being adopted by a white family. Reminds me of the Italian that Hannah was having trouble with and Sandy delayed firing until the problem had affected everyone. I really like the deck crew as well as Katie and Courtney but the rest are brutal. Sandy did completely drop the ball in supporting Katie. She's done it so many times you'd think she'd learn. She didn't want to deal with it because her worries over the chef were more pressing and she has it in her mind that having disruptive crew members is better than having openings in the crew. If she was going to force Katie to keep Lexi, the very least she could have done was to sit down with the two of them and make it clear to Lexi that Katie is in charge and she must respect her as her boss. But Sandy cares too much about being liked.
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Post by beerbelly on Aug 4, 2021 0:25:46 GMT
I so agree. Sandy is so hands-on when it comes to table decor and food and just lurking around asking 'how is everything?' until she has a real issue on her hands and she is all 'just deal with it, be a leader'. I don't even think Kaite is aware that Lexi forced her breasts on a co-worker, I think that is the worst of what Lexi has done. Besides pushing another crew member and what seems like a racial slur. I was giving Lexi a little slack because of her dad, but those are firable. And worse! Is that she was she wasn't apologetic. At all! The least she could do is be mortified by her behavior and that she got so drunk that she doesn't remember pissing off the whole crew. Instead, she's an a-hat to her boss.
Also, Malia, if she was more specific on what Lexi called her and what happened, it might have been more effective.
I like how the chef came back and was all apologetic and because of the Lexi drama, everyone had forgotten about him. Lol!
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Post by JustJuls on Aug 4, 2021 8:36:35 GMT
I feel like with any other captain Lexi would have been gone immediately. I don't think I've ever seen a more toxic crew member. Of course I feel for her that her father died...but that isn't a reason to treat other people badly. It's actually a reason to be a better person. Sandy has this annoying habit of picking and choosing instead of being steady. Lexi never should have been invited in to that meeting between Katie and Sandy. Sandy should have heard Katie's issues with her staff and THEN Sandy should have included Lexi. She was WAY too loose with her. I'm glad she only allowed Matt to come back for the charter but I have this weird feeling that he is somehow going to make up for it and Sandy will ask him to stay
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Post by beerbelly on Aug 4, 2021 10:43:47 GMT
I have that feeling too. And hopefully, having a chef in quarantine (I think at that point it was two weeks of quarantine in a hotel room) wasn't true, or that there are other yachts that may need a chef? Because that is really mean to have that man do all of that to get a job and Lucy football it away. Again, the rules change for each crew member.
I'm sure Lexi is sweet and kind to Sandy because that's what you have to do to get a blind eye to bad behavior from her. I felt so badly for Kaite, who I really like. I always think what would Captain Lee do, and he would have sat with them individually and not treat them as equals because they are not.
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Post by acookertv on Aug 4, 2021 10:46:39 GMT
I agree with you completely Juls on the mistake Sandy made inviting Lexi into that meeting. For her, it was a way out. She didn't want to deal with the problem, and by cutting Katie off she can claim he didn't know how bad it was.
I will give Lexi SLIGHT slack in the way she responded to Katie when they talked - only SLIGHT. Honestly, I don't think that conversation should have taken place. She did apologize. She didn't do it well and certainly wasn't groveling, but some people don't. But in the crew meeting she did say that she was sorry. It became an issue because s-stirring Malia went around to her crew telling them it really wasn't an apology and making sure people were against her. Then she went to Katie and told her people didn't feel like she'd apologized ... leaving out that it was because Malia had told them that was how they should respond. So Katie reacted to keep the peace and confronted Lexi for something Malia created. Katie has no reason to know yet that she can't trust Malia's word, but she REALLY should ask more questions and assess rather than jumping every time Malia winds her up.
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Post by FireWoman on Aug 4, 2021 13:04:21 GMT
I have that feeling too. And hopefully, having a chef in quarantine (I think at that point it was two weeks of quarantine in a hotel room) wasn't true, or that there are other yachts that may need a chef? Because that is really mean to have that man do all of that to get a job and Lucy football it away. Again, the rules change for each crew member. I'm sure Lexi is sweet and kind to Sandy because that's what you have to do to get a blind eye to bad behavior from her. I felt so badly for Kaite, who I really like. I always think what would Captain Lee do, and he would have sat with them individually and not treat them as equals because they are not. But in Sandy's eyes they are I think. More I watch BDM more I think that Sandy sees herself as this woman who worked her way up to captain and everyone else is below her. Period. When poor Katie was on the bridge talking about the hot tub incident and that toxic POS Lexi walked in, what Sandy did in that moment was more than wrong, it was disrespectful to Katie as a CS, as an employee in general, and as a person. But Sandy loves an butt kisser. I look at Sandy as a Front of House Manager at a Chi Chi's and if I was paying 100k for a weekend cruise I sure as hell do not need the person who is in charge of driving the boat hovering over my head and asking me if my food was OK. I would be like what the crap, don't you have another job to do? I miss me some BDSY, Capt Glenn is pretty awesome.
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Post by acookertv on Aug 4, 2021 13:09:45 GMT
Sandy definitely sees the crew as beneath her, but she's allowed to. Rank matters a lot in her industry, and she IS ranked higher than anyone else on the yacht. I think the bigger problem is that I think Sandy sees the interior crew as inferior to the deck crew. I would not be surprised to learn that as she was coming up Sandy had some bad experiences with interior crew members who didn't treat her well because she was a woman doing the "man's" job. She comes across like she's got an ax to grind towards stewards in general.
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Post by beerbelly on Aug 4, 2021 13:12:21 GMT
That gets me too! Doesn't she have a job to do? She just mills around - remember when she had time to organize the vegetables? At least she was helping then and not hovering and commenting on table decor.
Lol! Front of House Manager at Chi Chi's! You are so right!
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Post by acookertv on Aug 4, 2021 13:59:57 GMT
What Sandy has never understood is that in the eyes of guests, when she's milling around searching for problems, she's suggesting to them that the crew is weak and there SHOULD be problems.
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Post by JustJuls on Aug 4, 2021 18:42:17 GMT
I agree with you completely Juls on the mistake Sandy made inviting Lexi into that meeting. For her, it was a way out. She didn't want to deal with the problem, and by cutting Katie off she can claim he didn't know how bad it was. I will give Lexi SLIGHT slack in the way she responded to Katie when they talked - only SLIGHT. Honestly, I don't think that conversation should have taken place. She did apologize. She didn't do it well and certainly wasn't groveling, but some people don't. But in the crew meeting she did say that she was sorry. It became an issue because s-stirring Malia went around to her crew telling them it really wasn't an apology and making sure people were against her. Then she went to Katie and told her people didn't feel like she'd apologized ... leaving out that it was because Malia had told them that was how they should respond. So Katie reacted to keep the peace and confronted Lexi for something Malia created. Katie has no reason to know yet that she can't trust Malia's word, but she REALLY should ask more questions and assess rather than jumping every time Malia winds her up. I don't think Malia was sh*t stirring in this case. I think Lexi was a rude, condescending, childish person. Her "apology" was very half assed, she didn't own up to anything "because she couldn't remember" and only apologized to two people in that meeting....David and Katie. She offended the entire deck crew....but the two she DIDN'T apologize to she did the worst to imo. Stuck her boobs in Lloyd's face and called him a "pu**y" and put her hands on Mzi while offending his culture. Honestly...the moment she touched Mzi, she should have been off that boat. If he had done that to her...he would have been gone immediately. She has been given way too many outs. If she can't control herself because she is grieving...then she needs grief counseling and her family. Period.
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Post by acookertv on Aug 4, 2021 19:22:38 GMT
I agree with you completely Juls on the mistake Sandy made inviting Lexi into that meeting. For her, it was a way out. She didn't want to deal with the problem, and by cutting Katie off she can claim he didn't know how bad it was. I will give Lexi SLIGHT slack in the way she responded to Katie when they talked - only SLIGHT. Honestly, I don't think that conversation should have taken place. She did apologize. She didn't do it well and certainly wasn't groveling, but some people don't. But in the crew meeting she did say that she was sorry. It became an issue because s-stirring Malia went around to her crew telling them it really wasn't an apology and making sure people were against her. Then she went to Katie and told her people didn't feel like she'd apologized ... leaving out that it was because Malia had told them that was how they should respond. So Katie reacted to keep the peace and confronted Lexi for something Malia created. Katie has no reason to know yet that she can't trust Malia's word, but she REALLY should ask more questions and assess rather than jumping every time Malia winds her up. I don't think Malia was sh*t stirring in this case. I think Lexi was a rude, condescending, childish person. Her "apology" was very half assed, she didn't own up to anything "because she couldn't remember" and only apologized to two people in that meeting....David and Katie. She offended the entire deck crew....but the two she DIDN'T apologize to she did the worst to imo. Stuck her boobs in Lloyd's face and called him a "pu**y" and put her hands on Mzi while offending his culture. Honestly...the moment she touched Mzi, she should have been off that boat. If he had done that to her...he would have been gone immediately. She has been given way too many outs. If she can't control herself because she is grieving...then she needs grief counseling and her family. Period. I don't disagree with your recap. That said, Lexi's worst offenses didn't come up in the meeting, and she admitted earlier that she did not remember most of what happened. So that leaves her unable to apologize for what she doesn't know she did. She got too defensive in the meeting, which took it off course and ended it before it probably should have ended. However, Sandy's plea at the end of the meeting was for everyone to move past it and work together. Had the deck crew come to Malia and told her there were still issues and the apology hadn't been sufficient, that would have been one thing. But Malia went to them looking to turn up a problem. Rather than moving on, she kept it going. In Malia's position, she's held to a higher standard. She may need to use some gossiping with the crew at times to build camaraderie - but she has to do it with a lot of discipline. Instead, I think she tries to just be one of the crew when it's convenient, but then pull rank when that serves her better. She's making matters worse. And truly - she should have acted like a grown up in the same way Katie did, sucked it up and kept rooming with Lexi. There's truly not much difference between Katie taking one for the team and Malia taking one for the team. Actually, now that I think about it - why woudln't they just have Malia and Katie room together from the start?
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