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Post by waywyrd on Nov 19, 2021 13:52:41 GMT
Flipping 101 - these people were all actors, right? That "contractor" looked like no contractor I've ever worked with, and the two women prancing about on the job site in high heels with their whispery voices are going to get eaten alive by unscrupulous workers. They should stick to selling houses. Or acting. The house itself was unappealing - they basically had to build a literal bridge to serve as the driveway, which made the view from the downstairs "office" window dark and ugly. The yard looked unusable. There was no dining space other than the island. The living room was small. And the big design choice was All White Everything - nothing stood out to me except that hideous view and the weird, various sized balconies they added. Tarek didn't say the house had sold, and I don't see anyone jumping on that one unless they're dying to live in that neighborhood. Oh, Tarek and crew bought a new toy - a golf cart to putt around the beach in. Whee.
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Post by Bearcata on Nov 19, 2021 16:07:01 GMT
Flipping 101 - these people were all actors, right? That "contractor" looked like no contractor I've ever worked with, and the two women prancing about on the job site in high heels with their whispery voices are going to get eaten alive by unscrupulous workers. They should stick to selling houses. Or acting. The house itself was unappealing - they basically had to build a literal bridge to serve as the driveway, which made the view from the downstairs "office" window dark and ugly. The yard looked unusable. There was no dining space other than the island. The living room was small. And the big design choice was All White Everything - nothing stood out to me except that hideous view and the weird, various sized balconies they added. Tarek didn't say the house had sold, and I don't see anyone jumping on that one unless they're dying to live in that neighborhood. Oh, Tarek and crew bought a new toy - a golf cart to putt around the beach in. Whee. I haven't actually watched the entire episode but the all white kitchen with no texture. Wow, what a design choice. The total air head agents. That was a contractor???????? It took a year to flip! These women are idiots and very, very, very lucky. I wonder if these are the type of millennial women who think if they look pretty in their Instagram photos people will just give them things and do things for them for free and stuff just happens?
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Post by nennie on Nov 19, 2021 17:45:23 GMT
Flipping 101 - these people were all actors, right? That "contractor" looked like no contractor I've ever worked with, and the two women prancing about on the job site in high heels with their whispery voices are going to get eaten alive by unscrupulous workers. They should stick to selling houses. Or acting. The house itself was unappealing - they basically had to build a literal bridge to serve as the driveway, which made the view from the downstairs "office" window dark and ugly. The yard looked unusable. There was no dining space other than the island. The living room was small. And the big design choice was All White Everything - nothing stood out to me except that hideous view and the weird, various sized balconies they added. Tarek didn't say the house had sold, and I don't see anyone jumping on that one unless they're dying to live in that neighborhood. Oh, Tarek and crew bought a new toy - a golf cart to putt around the beach in. Whee. I turned it after a couple of minutes. The contractor seemed shady and those gals were clueless. What a waste of time.
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Post by waywyrd on Nov 19, 2021 22:07:03 GMT
Flipping Showdown - this wasn't awful, the three teams are fairly likeable so far and seem to do decent work. I guess they're competing for a franchise from Ken and Anita (Flip or Flop Atlanta)? I like it enough to watch next week.
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Post by Kao on Nov 19, 2021 22:55:14 GMT
I saw Tarek in a commercial for "We Buy Your House, Any Condition" here in SoCal. Why does he need to solicit? Don't the customers come to him through HGTV? That's because he (like a lot of flippers) likes to buy people's property on the cheap, sink the minimal amount of dollars into it and sell at a profit. There's a part of flipping that is completely predatory (which is why I really don't watch those shows).
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Post by nennie on Nov 19, 2021 23:37:38 GMT
I saw on Arie Luyindyk's instagram he was going to partner with Tarek on some real estate stuff.
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Post by Bearcata on Nov 20, 2021 0:01:42 GMT
Flipping Showdown - this wasn't awful, the three teams are fairly likeable so far and seem to do decent work. I guess they're competing for a franchise from Ken and Anita (Flip or Flop Atlanta)? I like it enough to watch next week. I'm watching it now. What does it say that this flipping contest mini series is more enjoyable to watch than Outgrown?
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Post by Bearcata on Nov 20, 2021 15:05:47 GMT
Flipping Showdown - this wasn't awful, the three teams are fairly likeable so far and seem to do decent work. I guess they're competing for a franchise from Ken and Anita (Flip or Flop Atlanta)? I like it enough to watch next week. I'm watching it now. What does it say that this flipping contest mini series is more enjoyable to watch than Outgrown? Episode 1 - The Flipping Frenzy Begins - November 17, 2021 I did wonder that all three teams were experienced flippers and yet all three teams made what I would call "rookie' mistakes. The team of Colin and Christina Beck, a married couple from Cincinnati, had the island in the kitchen too far away from the main counters. There are spacing guides how far apart an island should be from the main countertops, so how does an experienced flipping team make that mistake. I also think they needed an additional shelve in the pantry. Flippers Mike and Amy Gomez, a married couple from Nashville, TN, put in a bad light fixture which didn't even cover the hole in the ceiling. Come on as if no one would notice that? They could have done better. Brothers Cam Griffith from Pensacola, FL, and Chris Carter from Washington, DC, didn't put in a backer board and old glue bled into the marble because it is a porous stone. Really they didn't think that would happen? All the mistakes came across a bit staged.
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Post by Bearcata on Nov 23, 2021 14:08:06 GMT
Flipping 101 - these people were all actors, right? That "contractor" looked like no contractor I've ever worked with, and the two women prancing about on the job site in high heels with their whispery voices are going to get eaten alive by unscrupulous workers. They should stick to selling houses. Or acting. The house itself was unappealing - they basically had to build a literal bridge to serve as the driveway, which made the view from the downstairs "office" window dark and ugly. The yard looked unusable. There was no dining space other than the island. The living room was small. And the big design choice was All White Everything - nothing stood out to me except that hideous view and the weird, various sized balconies they added. Tarek didn't say the house had sold, and I don't see anyone jumping on that one unless they're dying to live in that neighborhood. Oh, Tarek and crew bought a new toy - a golf cart to putt around the beach in. Whee. I finally managed to watch the entire episode yesterday and the impression of utter vagueness, incompetence, lack of effort, lack of understanding of flipping and contracting from the two real estate agents was unbelievable. Maybe it was that these two had absolutely no personality. As far as design, "I want a clean look". Please add a little color, a little texture it makes the biggest difference. At least they used those wavy lined tiles. As for the house, I can't blame them for the layout of the house. It is obvious that is the style of home built in that area. Would I want it? NO. But there is always a buyer. That contractor was unusual to say the least.
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Post by Bearcata on Nov 26, 2021 18:34:23 GMT
Flipping Showdown - Episode 2 - It's All in the Details - November 24, 2021
The first round is done, 3 couples, 3 houses, 6 weeks, $30,000 budget.
Although this is Atlanta and labor and supply costs are not as much as on the East or West Coast, I thought $30,000 to renovate houses that range from 1100 sq. ft. to just over 1900 sq. ft. was a bit unrealistic.
You are supposed to put aside anywhere between %10 to %20 of a renovation budget for unexpected problems. So that would mean $3000 - $6000 in a contingency fund. So each house realistically was to be renovated for $24,000. That simply was not going to happen. Vaulting a ceiling can cost anywhere from $10,000 to $15,000 (saw it in a Home Town episode). When I saw some of the costs for vanities and such and the name Glacier Bay these folks were doing their shopping at Home Depot and getting $200 MDF vanities, the cheapest possible. I have also been quoted between $10,000 to $15,000 for a bathroom remodel. Maybe these folks are not accounting for paying labor or the Red Barn folks are providing free labor.
The little missed items are what bothered me. Were they on purpose? It was an incredibly tight deadline.
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Post by waywyrd on Dec 2, 2021 21:43:27 GMT
Flipping Showdown - on to round 2 and different houses. If teams didn't want to get stuck with the smaller, funky layout house, can't they just call and lock in one of the others? I wouldn't waste time driving out. Rooms turned out mostly nice, though I agree the farmhouse stuff did NOT belong on that Tudor, and the woman pouting because Anita didn't like the white grout on the bathroom floor needs to stop. Sure, it's pretty. For now. Light grout is a beast to keep clean, I wouldn't even try it in a bathroom. And what was up with the weird cup room, is that where mugs go to die?
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 4, 2021 5:47:01 GMT
Flipping Showdown - Episode 3 - Mold, Mugs, and Moneymakers: Round 2 Begins - December 1, 2021
Start of round 2, all three teams have new houses and 8 weeks to flip them. The budget has increased from $30,000 to $50,000, however two of the houses are respectively 2500 sq ft and over 3000 sq ft and the last house is 1900+ sq ft. I am thinking $50,000 is not a lot of money to renovate a kitchen and all the bathrooms, plus refresh the outside for the bigger homes but seems reasonable for the smaller house.
I think the Cincinnati couple in the smallest house are making smart choices and not overdoing it for the neighborhood, but there are water and mold issues in the basement and that can be a costly fix.
The brothers team are still having time management issues, and their design choices are not cohesive. I mean they are big on having WOW moments but there is a certain point how many do you need and how many can you afford. Spending $5000 on a bathtub, which is 10% of your budget is not wise. You can get just as nice tub for $2000 as the Jeff and Mutt couple did (the tall wife in the other big house). Also the brothers say they have a Tudor house, although I can't see that and yet the fireplace and master bathroom have elements of farmhouse.
I would think by now the Jeff and Mutt couple have flipped enough houses to know about grout color, however, I don't think most people even think about grout color or care about it until they have to clean it. That was Anita nitpicking for the show.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 7, 2021 23:57:22 GMT
Flip or Flop - Season 10 of Flip and Flop started Dec 2 and will run 15 episodes. It was not bad. Tarek and Christina are getting along. The house had a black and white palette but they are getting away from the modern farmhouse feel to more of a Hollywood Glam vibe. I do like the look. The kitchen cabinets were black and with white marble look quartz countertops and a marble and gold or brass piece in the backsplash tile. The tile looked fabulous. They continued the black cabinets in the 3 bathrooms and used variations of hexagon tiles in the various bathrooms to make it look cohesive but not too matchy matchy. Not sure that I would have put in a firepit in the backyard as it was a very small space and if you have kids there really is no place to play unless you let them use the front yard as it is fenced in.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 9, 2021 19:36:54 GMT
HGTV Scheduling is a HUGE MESS.
First they had Renovation Island on Sundays with about 3 episodes to go and it disappears.
Outgrown in on and off the schedule and disappears. This one I really didn't care about.
Flipping Showdown is a 6 episode miniseries and episode is where? Oh, they moved from 9pm to 11pm.
What the heck is going on?
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Post by Kao on Dec 10, 2021 2:51:35 GMT
Hmmm....apparently Hometown and the new Hilary Farr show where she finally gets to tell homeowners about themselves have been moved to premiere around Christmas and both of those were supposed to be released next year. Something is afoot.
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Post by waywyrd on Dec 10, 2021 14:10:09 GMT
Flipping Showdown - I don't care how much value they supposedly added to the house, I just don't like what the guys are doing with that Tudor. The couple that ended up with the leaky basement/mug house did a great job, though. Flip or Flop - I always cringe when they get ahold of a mid-century modern...this one didn't come out too badly. At least she used a green exterior and wood lower cabinets. The bathrooms were unremarkable. I see HGTV made room on their schedule for the big Tarek Wedding Special next week. I'll pass.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 11, 2021 6:27:34 GMT
Flipping Showdown - I don't care how much value they supposedly added to the house, I just don't like what the guys are doing with that Tudor. The couple that ended up with the leaky basement/mug house did a great job, though. Flip or Flop - I always cringe when they get ahold of a mid-century modern...this one didn't come out too badly. At least she used a green exterior and wood lower cabinets. The bathrooms were unremarkable. I see HGTV made room on their schedule for the big Tarek Wedding Special next week. I'll pass. I liked the result of the Flip or Flop house. It looked way better. I liked the kitchen backsplash tile, the shower surround tile, and the terrazzo floor tile. The entire kitchen turned out better then I thought it would. Didn't come across as if Tarek and Christina liked each other this episode, they seemed very at ease with each other. Flipping Showdown - Episode 4 - The Best On The Block Come Together - December 8, 2021 Hands down the best flip was the couple with the worst house, the couple from Cincinnati. They fixed that leaky basement and made it livable space and made it look good. The next two couples both had missing mortar from their fireplaces. That was weird. Did they use the same person? Regardless I thought it was something dumb to critic them about. The team that increased the value of their home the most were the two brothers and the Tudor house. I agree with you wayward I don't like what they are doing with the house. They do not have a cohesive design plan for the house. They have too many wow moments that are not necessary. The don't have any sense of time management in regards to finishing their projects or to ordering materials for those projects. They show incredible stupidity spending $5000 which is 10% of their $50,000 renovation budget on a bathtub. While I like a standing bathtub they could have bought one for half that money. The other two teams have taken to heart the critiques they have received from the hosts and have applied those critiques to their work. This team has not.
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Post by Kao on Dec 11, 2021 18:30:44 GMT
New Outgrown is supposed to come on tonight at 11pm EST, and a lot of viewers are wondering why HGTV keeps messing with their show in particular. I wish there was a place to see how different HGTV shows are doing ratings-wise; I might not watch Tarek and Christina but they are hugely popular and have their standalone shows in addition to still shooting FOF together. I think Hometown is one of their highest rated shows right now and I'm glad.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 11, 2021 23:14:56 GMT
New Outgrown is supposed to come on tonight at 11pm EST, and a lot of viewers are wondering why HGTV keeps messing with their show in particular. I wish there was a place to see how different HGTV shows are doing ratings-wise; I might not watch Tarek and Christina but they are hugely popular and have their standalone shows in addition to still shooting FOF together. I think Hometown is one of their highest rated shows right now and I'm glad. I see that Outgrown in scheduled on my DVR and then POW its gone. HGTV has been messing with the schedule of this show for weeks. They did the same thing with Renovation Inc on Sundays, and are now doing the same with Flipping Showdown. Flipping Showdown is only a 6 episode miniseries but abruptly last week the DVR had is airing at 9 pm and 11 pm. I actually tried to watch it after 9 pm and while the listing said Flipping Showdown it was a Property Brothers episode and actually aired at 11 pm. There are not a lot of viewers during the Thanksgiving and Christmas Holidays as people are traveling or doing other activities but I do record my shows and it is annoying to see this mess happening. I am not going to get a subscription to Discovery to watch HGTV.
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Post by Kao on Dec 12, 2021 16:47:03 GMT
Even more interesting, Outgrown was supposed to be available on 12/1 on Discover+ but is not yet available. Either there's some sort of contractual issue or someone is messing with that show for whatever reason. While I was generally on the fence about the show, the reveals were great and I like Cliff and Luke and want them to do well.
And just like that, I forgot to watch last night. I'll see if it's OnDemand but they've been slow with even that! It's almost like someone at HGTV does not want them doing well.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 12, 2021 19:31:16 GMT
Even more interesting, Outgrown was supposed to be available on 12/1 on Discover+ but is not yet available. Either there's some sort of contractual issue or someone is messing with that show for whatever reason. While I was generally on the fence about the show, the reveals were great and I like Cliff and Luke and want them to do well. And just like that, I forgot to watch last night. I'll see if it's OnDemand but they've been slow with even that! It's almost like someone at HGTV does not want them doing well. I managed to watch the episode last night it was number 6 and something happened, maybe to the editing as the the show was waaaaaay better than the syrupy mass of sugar sweetness it had become. I do fast forward though thru those parts. Where is HGTV finding these relatively young couples who have these huge houses and renovation budgets averaging over $100,000? The renovation itself was nicely done. The budget was $135,000 and the main focus was on the kitchen and making the flow of the house work for the family. Luke and Clint also redid the couples master bedroom and added a master bathroom. The style was modern farmhouse, and the color palette was white, black, with natural wood tones. I do like that Clint and Luke really try to work with what already exists in the home and tweet it to make it work. The kitchen was a late 1980's to 1990's style with weird walls and beam cutouts, with the small islands typical of the era. I liked that they reused the existing cabinets just painted them white. Knocking out the wall between the kitchen and dining room totally changes the space. Originally the beams where to be knocked out but they were structural and the refrigerator wall kept. The new plan called for knocking out the refrigerator wall (between the kitchen and dining room) and encasing the 3 beams with natural wood. So instead of a pentagon shape kitchen you get a long run of cabinets, refrigerator, and stove against the back wall and a huge island. The cabinets are white, the countertops are white, the backsplash tile is black. Have we not seen this exact same palette for the kitchen the last 5 episodes? I did like that they were able to add a huge pantry. Luke and Clint made the current master bedroom into the kids rec room and made the bigger original rec room the new master bedroom and ensuite. The absolute best feature of the renovation was Luke's feature wall of 2 x 2 sticks that were about 2 to 3 feet long, that he had Clint nail into the living room walls, the entrance way of the house and as a feature wall of the master bedroom. For a cost of $200 dollars and a little imagination Luke and Clint created an amazing architectural feature. Overall enjoyed the episode. Pet Peeve: I have noticed that HGTV is really pushing this formula of couples renovating homes for clients as their templates for any TV show as it was so successful with Fixer Upper (Joanna and Chip Gaines). The clients are always these goody two shoe types who have 3 to 4 biological children and at least 1 if not more adopted children. These couples move back home to these huge houses on land, and have these huge support system of extended family and friends. HGTV does come across as pushing this agenda that this is the ideal American family and I am really starting to resent it. I do not fit that demographic. It is annoying. Then you have the single who wants to live in the city center so they can party and date and entertain at home a lot, so the home must be a wow moment. After a long commute, working, and another long commute I just want a place to nest and relax in, not entertain, not have people over, or the neighborhood children. I just want the neighbors to be quiet and not dump their garbage in my yard or block my mail box or driveway with their cars. Please HGTV please stop pushing your version of Americana on the public; I just want to watch people getting their houses done and getting ideas for what I want to do for my place.
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Post by Kao on Dec 12, 2021 21:45:47 GMT
Even more interesting, Outgrown was supposed to be available on 12/1 on Discover+ but is not yet available. Either there's some sort of contractual issue or someone is messing with that show for whatever reason. While I was generally on the fence about the show, the reveals were great and I like Cliff and Luke and want them to do well. And just like that, I forgot to watch last night. I'll see if it's OnDemand but they've been slow with even that! It's almost like someone at HGTV does not want them doing well. I managed to watch the episode last night it was number 6 and something happened, maybe to the editing as the the show was waaaaaay better than the syrupy mass of sugar sweetness it had become. I do fast forward though thru those parts. Where is HGTV finding these relatively young couples who have these huge houses and renovation budgets averaging over $100,000? The renovation itself was nicely done. The budget was $135,000 and the main focus was on the kitchen and making the flow of the house work for the family. Luke and Clint also redid the couples master bedroom and added a master bathroom. The style was modern farmhouse, and the color palette was white, black, with natural wood tones. I do like that Clint and Luke really try to work with what already exists in the home and tweet it to make it work. The kitchen was a late 1980's to 1990's style with weird walls and beam cutouts, with the small islands typical of the era. I liked that they reused the existing cabinets just painted them white. Knocking out the wall between the kitchen and dining room totally changes the space. Originally the beams where to be knocked out but they were structural and the refrigerator wall kept. The new plan called for knocking out the refrigerator wall (between the kitchen and dining room) and encasing the 3 beams with natural wood. So instead of a pentagon shape kitchen you get a long run of cabinets, refrigerator, and stove against the back wall and a huge island. The cabinets are white, the countertops are white, the backsplash tile is black. Have we not seen this exact same palette for the kitchen the last 5 episodes? I did like that they were able to add a huge pantry. Luke and Clint made the current master bedroom into the kids rec room and made the bigger original rec room the new master bedroom and ensuite. The absolute best feature of the renovation was Luke's feature wall of 2 x 2 sticks that were about 2 to 3 feet long, that he had Clint nail into the living room walls, the entrance way of the house and as a feature wall of the master bedroom. For a cost of $200 dollars and a little imagination Luke and Clint created an amazing architectural feature. Overall enjoyed the episode. Pet Peeve: I have noticed that HGTV is really pushing this formula of couples renovating homes for clients as their templates for any TV show as it was so successful with Fixer Upper (Joanna and Chip Gaines). The clients are always these goody two shoe types who have 3 to 4 biological children and at least 1 if not more adopted children. These couples move back home to these huge houses on land, and have these huge support system of extended family and friends. HGTV does come across as pushing this agenda that this is the ideal American family and I am really starting to resent it. I do not fit that demographic. It is annoying. Then you have the single who wants to live in the city center so they can party and date and entertain at home a lot, so the home must be a wow moment. After a long commute, working, and another long commute I just want a place to nest and relax in, not entertain, not have people over, or the neighborhood children. I just want the neighbors to be quiet and not dump their garbage in my yard or block my mail box or driveway with their cars. Please HGTV please stop pushing your version of Americana on the public; I just want to watch people getting their houses done and getting ideas for what I want to do for my place. Add "Suburban" and "Borderline Rural" to the list as well. I know Alison is not everyone's cup of tea but I loved Windy City Rehab because it was one of the few shows on HGTV that featured an Urban environment. The House Hunters franchise is also good at showing housing from pretty much everywhere. There seems to be a trend in more shows featuring untraditional living arrangements (Hometown, Nate and Jeremiah, Good Bones to a certain extent, etc) so maybe the network realizes the value of those shows. I mean, I'd rather watch a show like Hometown with good people helping everyone from first time homeowners to retirees living by themselves than...anything on the Magnolia Network. I'm sure there's other people out here who feel the same way. I heard that one of the reasons "Only Murders in the Buildings" did so well was because it tapped into a demographic that is big, yet often gets ignored (older people living alone) and I imagine there's a lot of similar groups as well and they are watching "Nate and Jeremiah" and not "Outgrown."
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 13, 2021 1:18:22 GMT
I managed to watch the episode last night it was number 6 and something happened, maybe to the editing as the the show was waaaaaay better than the syrupy mass of sugar sweetness it had become. I do fast forward though thru those parts. Where is HGTV finding these relatively young couples who have these huge houses and renovation budgets averaging over $100,000? The renovation itself was nicely done. The budget was $135,000 and the main focus was on the kitchen and making the flow of the house work for the family. Luke and Clint also redid the couples master bedroom and added a master bathroom. The style was modern farmhouse, and the color palette was white, black, with natural wood tones. I do like that Clint and Luke really try to work with what already exists in the home and tweet it to make it work. The kitchen was a late 1980's to 1990's style with weird walls and beam cutouts, with the small islands typical of the era. I liked that they reused the existing cabinets just painted them white. Knocking out the wall between the kitchen and dining room totally changes the space. Originally the beams where to be knocked out but they were structural and the refrigerator wall kept. The new plan called for knocking out the refrigerator wall (between the kitchen and dining room) and encasing the 3 beams with natural wood. So instead of a pentagon shape kitchen you get a long run of cabinets, refrigerator, and stove against the back wall and a huge island. The cabinets are white, the countertops are white, the backsplash tile is black. Have we not seen this exact same palette for the kitchen the last 5 episodes? I did like that they were able to add a huge pantry. Luke and Clint made the current master bedroom into the kids rec room and made the bigger original rec room the new master bedroom and ensuite. The absolute best feature of the renovation was Luke's feature wall of 2 x 2 sticks that were about 2 to 3 feet long, that he had Clint nail into the living room walls, the entrance way of the house and as a feature wall of the master bedroom. For a cost of $200 dollars and a little imagination Luke and Clint created an amazing architectural feature. Overall enjoyed the episode. Pet Peeve: I have noticed that HGTV is really pushing this formula of couples renovating homes for clients as their templates for any TV show as it was so successful with Fixer Upper (Joanna and Chip Gaines). The clients are always these goody two shoe types who have 3 to 4 biological children and at least 1 if not more adopted children. These couples move back home to these huge houses on land, and have these huge support system of extended family and friends. HGTV does come across as pushing this agenda that this is the ideal American family and I am really starting to resent it. I do not fit that demographic. It is annoying. Then you have the single who wants to live in the city center so they can party and date and entertain at home a lot, so the home must be a wow moment. After a long commute, working, and another long commute I just want a place to nest and relax in, not entertain, not have people over, or the neighborhood children. I just want the neighbors to be quiet and not dump their garbage in my yard or block my mail box or driveway with their cars. Please HGTV please stop pushing your version of Americana on the public; I just want to watch people getting their houses done and getting ideas for what I want to do for my place. Add "Suburban" and "Borderline Rural" to the list as well. I know Alison is not everyone's cup of tea but I loved Windy City Rehab because it was one of the few shows on HGTV that featured an Urban environment. The House Hunters franchise is also good at showing housing from pretty much everywhere. There seems to be a trend in more shows featuring untraditional living arrangements (Hometown, Nate and Jeremiah, Good Bones to a certain extent, etc) so maybe the network realizes the value of those shows. I mean, I'd rather watch a show like Hometown with good people helping everyone from first time homeowners to retirees living by themselves than...anything on the Magnolia Network. I'm sure there's other people out here who feel the same way. I heard that one of the reasons "Only Murders in the Buildings" did so well was because it tapped into a demographic that is big, yet often gets ignored (older people living alone) and I imagine there's a lot of similar groups as well and they are watching "Nate and Jeremiah" and not "Outgrown." I liked Murder in the Building because it was fun, and yes it was older, wiser folks working with younger ones. It is also one of the only shows on air that shows older single people do have active sex lives as well as actively doing criminal activities and committing murder. If does acknowledge that you don't have to be young and pretty and married or partnered to have a life. It is also fun to explore a different type of community. Recently it was quoted 37% of the population lives as a single. I do like Windy City Rehab even with all the shows problems and I do hope they can film more episodes. Not all your business partners are your friends and want to do well by you. I like Nate and Jeremiah because in the first episode is was a home inherited by three grown siblings and while they loved their mother and they wanted to keep the family home they also wanted it updated. It was so nice and a refreshing change to see grown siblings who liked each other and wanted to do something together for the family. I also really appreciate that Nate and Jeremiah go through these process of going through the family keepsakes and give them updates instead of promoting Wayfair and buying all new stuff that is not of the same quality and breaks down in 5 years. Also N&J appreciate the architecture of each home they work on and don't gut it because of the open concept trend. If I hear one more mom say I need open concept to see what my kids are doing, well instead of knocking down a wall use a playpen, it contains the child and no it will not damage the special snowflakes creativity or whatever makes them special.
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Post by Kao on Dec 15, 2021 17:21:00 GMT
I saw the previews of Tarek's wedding show and wow, they seem to be making a big deal about it. Did they make this big a deal when Christina got remarried? Because there's a certain "nyah nyah" quality to what I saw that really makes him look petty.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 16, 2021 2:25:25 GMT
I saw the previews of Tarek's wedding show and wow, they seem to be making a big deal about it. Did they make this big a deal when Christina got remarried? Because there's a certain "nyah nyah" quality to what I saw that really makes him look petty. He does do that. It is not a good look.
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Post by waywyrd on Dec 16, 2021 12:01:45 GMT
Looking at the guide for tonight, the wedding special is a whole hour...I think Christina's was just sorta tacked onto her regular show, IIRC? Either way, I'm not interested in watching that mess.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 16, 2021 21:30:10 GMT
Looking at the guide for tonight, the wedding special is a whole hour...I think Christina's was just sorta tacked onto her regular show, IIRC? Either way, I'm not interested in watching that mess. I'll record it and watch it later. It can be a hoot for the sheer arrogant and cockiness Tarek oozes from his pores. He just loves to rub it in people's faces how successful he is.
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Post by waywyrd on Dec 17, 2021 14:27:03 GMT
Flipping Showdown - so they purposely gave them a budget that wouldn't get the job done, wanting them to ask for more but not wait until the last minute? I don't know why they were all hating on that green house, it wasn't THAT hideous. Honestly I thought all the houses have potential. We'll see... Flip or Flop - Dark cabinets! Maybe they're getting away from white everything, finally. I did like the shower tile that had a bit of sparkle to it. Kind of surprised they left the old fashioned white iron scroll porch post instead of replacing/wrapping it with wood. Doesn't matter, it sold quickly and for a huge profit. Pff. I did not watch the wedding show. I just couldn't.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 17, 2021 15:32:26 GMT
Flipping Showdown - so they purposely gave them a budget that wouldn't get the job done, wanting them to ask for more but not wait until the last minute? I don't know why they were all hating on that green house, it wasn't THAT hideous. Honestly I thought all the houses have potential. We'll see... Flip or Flop - Dark cabinets! Maybe they're getting away from white everything, finally. I did like the shower tile that had a bit of sparkle to it. Kind of surprised they left the old fashioned white iron scroll porch post instead of replacing/wrapping it with wood. Doesn't matter, it sold quickly and for a huge profit. Pff. I did not watch the wedding show. I just couldn't. Flipping Showdown - the renovation prices in Atlanta have always surprised me as being quiet low even in this market. I would be very surprised if the brothers win this contest as they always over renovate, they gut when it is not needed, they don't have cohesive designs, and they have horrible time management, and way too many wow moments that are not needed. I am hoping the couple from Cincinnati win this thing as they seem to be able to see the big picture, handle the budget, and use materials smartly. The Nashville couple freaking out over the green house was unexpected. This is a business and if you are professionals there will be times you have to do projects that you don't like. I really don't know why the wife was flipping out. New roof, new siding, new windows, new door, new paint color and the house will look new. It was a one story ranch under 2000 sq ft this couple should be able to do it in their sleep. However they probably need new HVAC, hot water tank, and electrical. Will they even have any money left over from the $80,000 budget. I enjoyed the Flip or Flop episode. That was a huge lot. Yes, I noticed that they didn't do anything to the white iron scroll post but I to wonder if the real estate market being as hot as it is they know what to do and what not to do. Seriously, they do script some of the issues. Who wouldn't notice a rock roof and not have a replacement roof in the original estimate. Tarek and Christina really seem to be getting along. I have been liking their design choices. I am so glad they are not always doing all white kitchens. They are selecting some beautiful tile lately.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 23, 2021 0:44:49 GMT
Hmmm....apparently Hometown and the new Hilary Farr show where she finally gets to tell homeowners about themselves have been moved to premiere around Christmas and both of those were supposed to be released next year. Something is afoot. I watched episode 1 of Hilary's Tough Love it is based in Philadelphia with the clients in New Jersey. I liked it. The budget was $50,000 and Hilary was able to totally redo the basement and create an office for the husband in part of the garage. Very nicely done. Nice finishes. Hilary used a bit of Tough Love to get the husband sell his rowhouse in Philly. I liked it because the budget was lower and it was nice to see Hilary present reasonable solutions to her clients.
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