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Post by MissGriss on Aug 11, 2018 22:13:10 GMT
Wow! Clearly, he is a problematic person, and they just chose to ignore that and stick with their "money maker" regardless of the difficult work environment he was creating. How maddening.
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Post by acookertv on Aug 12, 2018 2:39:48 GMT
I think that the Hardwick / Dykstra story may be one of those where she believes sincerely that she was emotionally abused, he believes sincerely that he’s innocent, and both are correct. It may illustrate how complicated a bad relationship can be. Hardwick attained a great deal of success in a relatively short period of time. Often attaining that kind of power isn’t done by being kind. There are some very successful people who are a-holes to work for. Some who work under them can tolerate it. Others can’t and move on. If he is truly trying to destroy careers of people who cross him, that’s disturbing. If he’s merely a controlling a-hole, I hope those who choose to tolerate it get from their careers what they are looking for.
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Post by Arielflies on Aug 16, 2018 2:26:14 GMT
After the breaking news in PA regarding the multitudes of pedophile priests in the state, I rewatched the movie "Spotlight". The reporting took place in 2001-2002 - so many years ago. What has been done since then to remove these pedophiles from contact with children? Nothing!!!!!
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Post by Imperfect1 on Aug 16, 2018 11:18:12 GMT
After the breaking news in PA regarding the multitudes of pedophile priests in the state, I rewatched the movie "Spotlight". The reporting took place in 2001-2002 - so many years ago. What has been done since then to remove these pedophiles from contact with children? Nothing!!!!! Wow, that's shocking and disappointing! Hopefully now, with this new wave of news about church pedophiles in PA, and with the current culture of heightened awareness, some meaningful action will finally be taken.
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Post by Cuddles on Aug 16, 2018 21:17:52 GMT
I have a real problem with what was revealed to us yesterday. It curdles my stomach.
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Post by redsoxgirl on Aug 17, 2018 12:13:49 GMT
4 years ago, Pope Francais met with survivors of sexual abuse. One called it life changing. The Pope also gave a intense interview: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690575/Pope-Francis-admits-two-cent-Roman-Catholic-priests-paedophiles-interview-Italian-newspaper.htmlIn his interview, Francis was quoted as saying: ‘The Church is fighting for the eradication of the habit and for education that rehabilitates. 'But this leprosy is also present in our house. Many of my colleagues who are working against it tell me that paedophilia inside the Church is at the level of 2 per cent.’ He said that the figures supplied by Church officials were supposed to reassure him, but added: ‘But I have to say that they do not reassure me by any means. ‘On the contrary, I find them deeply concerning. Among the 2 per cent who are paedophiles are even bishops and cardinals.’ In his interview, the Pope acknowledged that paedophilia was common and widespread in the Catholic Church, and reportedly called the requirement for celibacy among priests ‘a problem’ for which he is ‘finding the solution’ – although the Vatican also denied that he said this. Last week Pope Francis issued his strongest words on paedophile priests so far as he held a historic three-hour meeting with six abuse victims, including two from Britain and two from Ireland. British abuse victim Peter Saunders, 57, who was molested for more than five years by two priests, a teacher and a member of his family from the age of eight, described the experience as ‘life-changing’. The first cases of abuse at the hands of priests came to light in the US and Canada in the 1980s. In the 1990s, revelations began to emerge of widespread abuse in Ireland, before cases were exposed in more than a dozen countries in the last decade. In 2009, two damning reports into allegations of paedophilia in Ireland revealed the extent of cover-ups spanned decades and involved thousands of victims. Last week the Pope said the Catholic Church had been guilty of ‘complicity’ in covering up what he called ‘despicable actions’ and ‘grave sins’. He said members of the Catholic Church should ‘weep before the execrable acts of abuse which have left life-long scars’.
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Post by redsoxgirl on Aug 17, 2018 12:34:10 GMT
Reformation began 10 years ago, with an independent organization implementing procedures that change the way the church deals with the accussed. They now call the police whenever an allegation is made-and they must report to the independent council. Priests are put on leave immediately. If they are found guilty they are stripped of their collar. It's more detailed than what I explained and far more punitive. The independent council also implemented a transparency policy so that anyone can access information regarding the issue. It's also important to note there were priests who did the right thing by turning in those who molested children. But, like most organizations, doing the right thing is a philosophy practiced by the minority.
Other Christ based religions are riddled with the same type of abuse. I'd appreciate a spotlight on them. Because this is more than a catholic problem.
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Post by libgirl2 on Aug 20, 2018 17:28:30 GMT
Reformation began 10 years ago, with an independent organization implementing procedures that change the way the church deals with the accussed. They now call the police whenever an allegation is made-and they must report to the independent council. Priests are put on leave immediately. If they are found guilty they are stripped of their collar. It's more detailed than what I explained and far more punitive. The independent council also implemented a transparency policy so that anyone can access information regarding the issue. It's also important to note there were priests who did the right thing by turning in those who molested children. But, like most organizations, doing the right thing is a philosophy practiced by the minority. Other Christ based religions are riddled with the same type of abuse. I'd appreciate a spotlight on them. Because this is more than a catholic problem. I agree. I am Catholic and it hurts me to say Catholics are all pedophiles. I knew many very nice priests in my years of Catholic school. While I find this situation disgusting, it happens in any organization where certain people have authority that is not to be questioned and victims who are afraid to speak. And not just Christ based religions.
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Post by Brooks on Aug 20, 2018 19:07:53 GMT
Unlike decades ago, a child has a much better chance of confiding in someone and being believed even if it goes nowhere.
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Post by Critical on Aug 20, 2018 20:33:14 GMT
Kevin Spacey's newest movie, Billionaire Boys Club, had an opening day box office total of $126. In eight theaters. I don't think I've ever seen such a low number for box office sales. It's actually a shame because the rest of the cast is quite good. From what I've heard, the studio spent ZERO money to promote it. So, even though he's left the public eye for now, his behavior is still affecting others.
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Post by lonnie on Aug 20, 2018 20:59:39 GMT
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Post by Imperfect1 on Aug 20, 2018 22:47:58 GMT
Yeah. That reminds me of all the holier-than-thou politicians who are the worst accusers - and at the same time, they are the worst offenders. And, of course there's all of the holier-than-thou priest offenders.
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Post by acookertv on Aug 20, 2018 23:58:33 GMT
I dint think it’s as cut and dry simple as “she’s a hypocrite”. Don’t get me wrong, what she is said to have done to this young man, boy at the time is horrible and inexcusable. But looking at victims of abuse, there is sometimes a cycle. Victim sometimes becomes attacker. Did she do what she did because she’s a twisted hypocrite! Or did she do what she did because she was screwed up by being a victim. Further, when she spoke up, she had to know she had this in her past and was at risk of it coming out. She spoke up anyway. Did she do that in hopes of covering her own ass? Or did she do that in spite of the risk to help prevent more victims? It’s a sad and twisted mess. But I dint think we can rule out that the harm she spread is an extension of what was done to her.
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Post by lonnie on Aug 21, 2018 3:23:13 GMT
If that's the case, the same could be said for Harvey. Some may ask if he was abused when he was younger, for example.
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Post by lonnie on Aug 21, 2018 3:45:54 GMT
I hope this didn't have something to do with Anthony Bourdain's depression getting worse.
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Post by Arielflies on Aug 21, 2018 3:49:09 GMT
When I read the article, I thought about him and how he defended her so passionately. I hope he never knew about this.
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Post by Critical on Aug 21, 2018 4:06:24 GMT
She was seen pretty publicly with another man not long before AB's death.
The thing is, as someone else said today, both things about Asia can be true: she can be a victim AND a victimizer. What she did doesn't diminish what was done TO her. The abuse she suffered doesn't excuse her behavior - plenty of people survive abuse and sexual assault and it doesn't cause them to do the same thing to others - but also doesn't make it less horrible.
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Post by acookertv on Aug 21, 2018 9:54:11 GMT
If that's the case, the same could be said for Harvey. Some may ask if he was abused when he was younger, for example. To be honest, when you look at the behavior of both Harvey and Bob, it's something I've wondered.
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Post by MissScarlet on Aug 21, 2018 19:07:03 GMT
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Post by dagwood on Aug 21, 2018 19:49:31 GMT
She was seen pretty publicly with another man not long before AB's death. The thing is, as someone else said today, both things about Asia can be true: she can be a victim AND a victimizer. What she did doesn't diminish what was done TO her. The abuse she suffered doesn't excuse her behavior - plenty of people survive abuse and sexual assault and it doesn't cause them to do the same thing to others - but also doesn't make it less horrible. Exactly. Regardless of what has happened to you in the past, you are still 100% in control of the decisions you make today.
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Post by lonnie on Aug 21, 2018 20:20:05 GMT
That's quite a payout to give a harasser. 
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Post by Imperfect1 on Aug 22, 2018 0:56:41 GMT
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Post by Imperfect1 on Aug 22, 2018 12:30:56 GMT
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Post by momrek06 on Aug 22, 2018 20:05:31 GMT
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Post by Imperfect1 on Sept 1, 2018 23:49:09 GMT
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Post by redsoxgirl on Sept 10, 2018 5:17:19 GMT
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Post by MissGriss on Sept 10, 2018 5:25:28 GMT
Good! That article last week about him and his vendetta against Janet Jackson over the wardrobe malfunction at the Super Bowl said a lot about his character I thought. That type of vindictiveness certainly gives credence to the claims of retaliation from with women toward whom he is alleged to have made unwanted advances and more. This is a guy who holds a grudge!
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Post by Imperfect1 on Sept 10, 2018 12:46:03 GMT
Amidst all of the to-do about Les Moonves, I keep thinking about Julie Chen (whom I respect and like very much). I just can't imagine what she's been thinking and feeling ever since these stories broke.
Of course, like most wives, she publicly supported her husband in the very beginning. But what is she feeling and thinking now, especially now, with 6 additional women coming forward. It's almost impossible to think that even for someone who knows him and loves him as much as she does, that she could believe that he could be innocent of all these charges.
I wonder if she'll stay with him. . .
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 10, 2018 12:49:55 GMT
Amidst all of the to-do about Les Moonves, I keep thinking about Julie Chen (whom I respect and like very much). I just can't imagine what she's been thinking and feeling ever since these stories broke. Of course, like most wives, she publicly supported her husband in the very beginning. But what is she feeling and thinking now, especially now, with 6 additional women coming forward. It's almost impossible to think that even for someone who knows him and loves him as much as she does, that she could believe that he could be innocent of all these charges. I wonder if she'll stay with him. . . I have wondered that as well. I like Julie.
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Post by Amy Lee on Sept 10, 2018 12:57:42 GMT
I wonder if she'll stay on The Talk.
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