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Post by mina on Jan 23, 2019 18:50:46 GMT
Okay, I am just starting this from the first episode and am on episode 3. AJ is weird. Stephanie is a better woman than I , b/c I would stab him repeatedly for being annoying. Honestly in the previews, I thought he was part of a gay couple that they were having on the show (nothing at all wrong with that, just he came across as gay before I even saw the first episode.) He reminds me of Paul Lynde.
Luke seems like a major douche. I think Kate is gorgeous, and I understand everyone has a type. But, if he was so unwilling to be open to who he was matched with why be on this show? I hope it turns around for her sake.
I love the other couples, but I guess I'll see if they get into their issues and I end up hating them.
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Post by justCoz on Jan 23, 2019 22:33:35 GMT
Luke does seem like a complete jerk. What he said to Kate is pretty horrible, especially considering the circumstances. It's a vile thing to say to an enemy that you think they are repulsive; but to say that to a spouse is beyond the pale. If he's willing to say that now, what will he say during an argument?
And what makes him think he's so special? IMO, implied in that statement is that he thinks he's better than she is. He's not all that. How does he think what he said is acceptable?
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Post by amber on Jan 25, 2019 18:52:33 GMT
I am somewhat of the opinion that Luke thinks Kate isn't that bright and too blandly conventional for his taste. Right or wrong, it's more than obvious he isn't into her and won't end well.
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Post by mina on Jan 25, 2019 19:57:11 GMT
All caught up now and I'm over Luke. He is dead to me. Did they do anything at all on this trip that she wanted to do? She had to suffer through his sloth dream fantasy to only hear him say that he feels dead inside and is repulsed by kissing her? MAYBE it has to do with smoking, but is she smoking around him? Has she done it at all lately? There is no need for him to be so cruel to a woman. You can tell the truth kindly. I hope Pastor Cal lays into him next week. He reminds me of dead behind the eyes, no personality, Ashley who was matched with Atlanta Dave and spent the whole time being at nursing school avoiding him and then harping on how she wasn't attracted to him when she was around. And then crying and accusing him of cheating when she finds his old dating profile when she doesn't even want him anyway.
AJ- He was more toned down his last week. I can get where he was coming from about the homework, they should at least give them an hour heads up if they are going to film some deep meaningful convo. I didn't think he got that mad; I honestly expected it to be worse. Looks like he blows his top next week over his ugly decor.
Jasmine's bill paying thing......These couples in this experiment should split everything 50/50. Don't start sharing your money until the 8 weeks of cameras in your face is over and you truly want to commit. And after that in marriage they need to approach it as "it's all our money together"- you have a joint account and you pay bills from there- none of this "well I'm responsible for the mortgage and you cover everything else or some of the others. etc and I'll keep some of my money for fun or whatever I want". It's shared responsibility and there should be a house account at least that you are both contributing to if both are working.
Keith and Kristine are cute, but I can see when they get back to reality how he would be really immature and act like a kid.
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Post by Critical on Jan 30, 2019 3:52:35 GMT
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Post by lizard on Jan 30, 2019 16:49:22 GMT
* Jasmine and Will--I am sensing some good tension there: "I am not your pal." It looks like Jasmine may be willing to pull her share of the load. I think Will might almost be perfect. He had a best uncle award from kids.
* Kristine and Keith--He may have just struck gold finding young sexy mama who is going to do everything for him. I wonder if Kristine has a breaking point.
* AJ and Stephanie--It looks like they are doing ok. I see the momentary pain on Stephanie's face when his words sound non-committal. I do not think he means to sound that way.
* Luke and Kate--Pastor Cal told Luke his behavior was not acceptable. If Kate is seeing more weird behavior out of Luke, she does need to get rid of him. Mr. Right will be around the corner.
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Post by justCoz on Jan 30, 2019 17:11:18 GMT
Did anyone else feel Luke wasn't sorry at all until Pastor Cal called him out? I've been married over 25 years and cannot imagine my husband saying something so hurtful or damaging like what Luke said to Kate. No one should need to be told not to act that way. If I were Kate, I'd worry about how he was able to be so cruel too easily, and what's coming next, or after the cameras are gone.
Kristine's bossiness would bother me but it doesn't seem like Keith cares that she treats him like a child. I'm a grown adult and would not appreciate being told what I can and can't wear...no thanks. On 'Unfiltered' Keith said he didn't mind it though.
AJ needs to chill out a lot. I think these two could make a go of it, but he'll need to calm down some or Stephanie will be exhausted trying to keep the peace.
We'll see how it goes with Jasmine and Will. Right now it seems like it's neither great nor terrible so I hope that bodes well for them.
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Post by provenceguy on Jan 30, 2019 20:04:58 GMT
There is a screen cap on the web showing Jasmine wearing the necklace that Will gave her for their wedding, and the photo is from Judgement Day. People have speculated as to why she would wear this if her decision was not to have stayed married.
Also, Molly told Jonathan that his touch made her skin crawl, so she was equally as cruel.
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Post by mika06 on Jan 30, 2019 20:21:28 GMT
AJ and Stephanie I will say the over talking and constant run of the mouth wouldn't bother me but him being so negative at time and self deprecating would not fly with me. Based on the Unfiltered episode it seems Stephs biggest issue is him getting frustrated so quickly. So we shall see how it goes.
Luke and Kate So it seems Luke likes to di things to Kate when they are alone and not infront of the cameras and then when the cameras are on he goes all devoted husband. I DONT LIKE HIM!!!
Jasmine and Will I still feel like they have potential to be the strongest couple. Will seems to be very patient and giving. Jasmine needs to be more flexible in what she thinks her relationship should look like in most aspects. This is from an admitted control freak. I do live their level of communication and their affectionate moves so time will tell here as well.
Kristine and Keith Who know this would happen but they are my favorite couple to watch. I'm shocked that the seemed to have put their lives together so well. And why Kristine is boss it seems to be what Keith needs. Being a nurse and a student isn't an easy feat especially for overnight so Keith not being a homemaker is understandable. That said Kristine should not totally carry the load. Especially doing all the bills etc etc. But it seems based on Unfiltered she has played down the law for Keith to tow the line where he needs to...
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Post by mika06 on Jan 30, 2019 20:24:36 GMT
There is a screen cap on the web showing Jasmine wearing the necklace that Will gave her for their wedding, and the photo is from Judgement Day. People have speculated as to why she would wear this if her decision was not to have stayed married. Also, Molly told Jonathan that his touch made her skin crawl, so she was equally as cruel.Molly was definitely abusive and I see a lot of similarities between her and Luke. I don't feel like she gave her marriage her all and I don't feel like he is either. I keep saying I bet you if Kate calls Luke out and gets really nasty with him I bet you he would put the blame on her for why the marriage ended just like Molly did.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Jan 30, 2019 20:47:32 GMT
I'm upset that Pastor Cal didn't ream into Luke more forcefully. IDK why Kate would stay with him after those awful comments and I don't care if she signed a contract or not. Nobody deserves that kind of verbal abuse. I like Kate but something just seems 'off' with her. AJ seems to get easily frustrated. He's either super hyper, super happy, or has a hair trigger. I could not live with those mood swings of his. Stephanie is really trying to make 'this experiment' work. I think Will should have been matched with Kristine. Kristine seems to do well financially and is a go-getter. She is upbeat and perky and seems appreciative of whatever nice things a man does for her. She is not expecting as much as Jasmine seems to expect. I think that Will was initially attracted to Jasmine but during the honeymoon was turned off. First by Jasmine berating him for not coming to her rescue when she had her ATV accident and then when they were on their ziplining adventure and she made fun of him for being afraid of heights on both the zipline and then later when they had to cross that high suspension bridge. If that had been either Stephanie or Kristine, they would have been by their husband's side, offering encouragement and support. Jasmine just seems so negative. And then of course her wanting Will to be her sugar daddy and pay ALL of the bills while she gets to do what she wishes with her salary turned him off. Rightly so. I also think she has baby fever. She's in the friend zone and next week shows her complaining that she needs more affection from her husband. On the Unfiltered or after show with Jamie Otis, Keith and Stephanie were on with Pastor Cal. Pastor Cal said that Kristine makes 3x the amount of money as Keith and it was unrealistic to think she'd come home from a long day and prepare dinner every night. Keith works and goes to school and in his ideal world Kristine would cater to his needs, but I was super glad to hear that Keith IS pulling his weight and is preparing dinners as well! I think Keith is malleable and Kristine is good for him. I also think Kristine would have been a good match for Will, more so than Jasmine. I have no hope for Luke and Kate. I wish Kate would get the heck out of Dodge. Luke is just awful; he didn't even seem to have any remorse when Pastor Cal called him out for his hurtful words. He blamed it on the alcohol and on Kate wanting him to be more affectionate.
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Post by justCoz on Jan 30, 2019 23:46:29 GMT
I'm glad to know it's not just me thinking Kate shouldn't take that abuse. mika06 I agree about the similarities between Molly and Luke. She wasn't even the first abusive spouse. Couldn't they have some way to figure out in their questionaires if a person has abusive tendancies? I admit that even though I lived with an abusive father I don't necessarily know what questions those would be, but they need someone with better radar for picking those kind of people out. Obviously what they continue to do isn't giving them the capacity to weed out abusive people.
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Post by mika06 on Jan 31, 2019 0:41:54 GMT
I'm glad to know it's not just me thinking Kate shouldn't take that abuse. mika06 I agree about the similarities between Molly and Luke. She wasn't even the first abusive spouse. Couldn't they have some way to figure out in their questionaires if a person has abusive tendancies? I admit that even though I lived with an abusive father I don't necessarily know what questions those would be, but they need someone with better radar for picking those kind of people out. Obviously what they continue to do isn't giving them the capacity to weed out abusive people. I'm not sure how you would do that with out maybe secretly tapping them. My ex husband was very emotionally abusive and when I tell people they never believe me because he's so nice to everyone else and a pretty good father. 🤷🏾♀️
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Post by burntbrat on Jan 31, 2019 2:43:05 GMT
I agree with mika06. It would be very difficult to weed those people out. I think the "experts" just need to be better about supporting the spouse that is receiving the abuse. And maybe they are, but it seems to me that they are all about making sure the couples make it to the end. Even if they shouldn't.
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Post by justCoz on Jan 31, 2019 3:33:33 GMT
I'm glad to know it's not just me thinking Kate shouldn't take that abuse. mika06 I agree about the similarities between Molly and Luke. She wasn't even the first abusive spouse. Couldn't they have some way to figure out in their questionaires if a person has abusive tendancies? I admit that even though I lived with an abusive father I don't necessarily know what questions those would be, but they need someone with better radar for picking those kind of people out. Obviously what they continue to do isn't giving them the capacity to weed out abusive people. I'm not sure how you would do that with out maybe secretly tapping them. My ex husband was very emotionally abusive and when I tell people they never believe me because he's so nice to everyone else and a pretty good father. 🤷🏾♀️ I do know what you mean because I had a lot of people think my dad was nice. They thought I was just being a bratty teenager when I would say he wasn't. (In a weird way) thankfully he had shown his true colors around my best friend because she would stick up for me and tell them I was right and he wasn't like they thought. I know it can be difficult to see. However, even though they stick up for the hurt person (like Jon or Kate) it's almost like they don't understand the severity of what their words indicate. You can't just tell an abuser to stop. That won't work. And, as in Molly's case, they often turn out back on the other person. 'I only said or did that because they...' And Luke blamed Kate by saying she was putting too much pressure on him. I think they need to consult wth someone who is an expert in abusers/abused.
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Post by mina on Jan 31, 2019 7:59:59 GMT
I think Luke is a princess......He was honestly miffed that at the wedding she didn't recognize him as the awesome speed dating facilitator and it bothered him. I thought the honeymoon was all about him and his feelings. AND I don't think he would have acknowledged it or felt sorry if pastor Cal hadn't called him out. He was nervous about what Kate would say to Cal without him there and he didn't want to talk about it. He was ready to deny that he had said those words or pretend that it didn't happen. When he realized Kate had told on him; his face says it all. He just wanted pastor Cal to pat him on the back and call him pretty. He seemed to have a lovely mother so I don't see how she raised an egotistic princess, but here we are.
Kate comes across to me as having self esteem problems. I think she's gorgeous (very Kate Upton looking), but she may have experienced problems with weight or whatever and that can do a number on you. Now she has a gross husband that blames her for not being attracted to her. I honestly feel bad for her and (for me) there would be no coming back from what he said to her. I would kick him out of my apt. or tell pastor Cal to remove him.
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Post by provenceguy on Jan 31, 2019 16:07:44 GMT
Kate looks very insecure during the get together with Luke's friends next week.
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Post by justCoz on Jan 31, 2019 16:38:12 GMT
Kate looks very insecure during the get together with Luke's friends next week. (From the preview) it doesn't appear that Luke is trying to make her feel comfortable which is particularly odd since he runs speed dating events where presumably part of his job is to help clients feel welcomed. We'll see next week how it plays out, but it's Luke so I am not expecting it to be good.
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Post by Jamie5632 on Jan 31, 2019 20:13:43 GMT
Also from the preview, to have Luke (literally and loudly) call out Kate for being awkward while his arm is around someone else is cruel. I'm hoping for her sake that was some editing, but ugh.
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Post by Critical on Feb 6, 2019 7:19:28 GMT
I don't know. I'm not ready to write Luke off yet....or draw and quarter him....or tar and feather him. Yeah, what he said suuuuucked. I don't know how I'd feel if my husband said that to me. Probably terrible. However, they both said he'd been drinking and we all know people say stupid, awful things when drinking. Yes, maybe he was thinking it, but he probably wouldn't have said it sober. I don't know. I just am not ready to say he's scum or anything. Kate did tell Pastor Cal that was the only time Luke had ever spoken to her that way and that he has always been respectful and sweet to her.... and that's what we've seen. If that wasn't the case, I'd think she would have taken that opening to throw Luke under the bus.
Luke seemed to know he'd really blown it and has clearly been working to make it up to her. I liked that he was tuned into her at the party and changed things up to make her more comfortable. Still, if he's not physically attracted to her, he's not physically attracted to her. We can't help how we feel. I don't think Kate is gorgeous or anything - she's cute - and I do think Luke's type leans toward exotic, darker girls.
Keith and Kristina having unprotected sex = Come ON, girl! You want to be an grown woman, in control of your life? Act like it and use contraception!
I like that AJ apologized, but I also think he basically said, "This is how I am, so you need to learn to live with it" instead of acknowledging that maybe he needs to change that behavior.
Jasmine and Will definitely seem like their out of synch. The only one getting any affection in that house is the (super cute) dog!
I always wonder, especially in the cases of the couples that opt to divorce on Decision Day, when they made the decision. Not as a couple, but in their own minds. Sometimes it's pretty clear - like with Heather and Derek or Molly and Jon - but other times they make it seem like they're deliberating right up until the final moment. I know they need to do that to keep the suspense going, but I do wonder when that moment is when the person just thinks, "Nope, I'm done."
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Post by lizard on Feb 6, 2019 14:51:28 GMT
"I always wonder, especially in the cases of the couples that opt to divorce on Decision Day, when they made the decision. Not as a couple, but in their own minds. Sometimes it's pretty clear - like with Heather and Derek or Molly and Jon - but other times they make it seem like they're deliberating right up until the final moment. I know they need to do that to keep the suspense going, but I do wonder when that moment is when the person just thinks, "Nope, I'm done."
I different people would have different tolerances. Perhaps when you see no end to the torture.
Some people might want confirming advice. I was one of those people. All I needed was a professional to tell me that my ex was not a good person to be married to.
Will's statement to Jasmine's friends that he expects some of "this" to disappear shows maturity. He is prepared for the marital weight gain.
I was glad that nobody was tortured this episode.
No contraception--eeekkk
Next week's preview: Kristine is looking at Keith's phones asking "whose boobs are that?" Moments like that make me glad it do not have a man to deal with.
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Post by annifran on Feb 6, 2019 20:12:59 GMT
I thought Kate kissing Luke on the cheek and he, in turn, giving her a quick kiss on the lips was endearing. Perhaps the tide is turning and he's warming up to her. For the first time, I saw a side of him that was likable.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Feb 6, 2019 22:07:03 GMT
I thought Kate kissing Luke on the cheek and he, in turn, giving her a quick kiss on the lips was endearing. Perhaps the tide is turning and he's warming up to her. For the first time, I saw a side of him that was likable. Really? What about him sticking his tongue out at the camera immediately after? I despise Luke. Kate is going through the motions, I think. Luke is a hipster wannabe, imo. All those friends he invited whereas the other couples invited maybe 2 friends each. Why? So he can show us he is Mr. Popular? Those long hugs he gave to his male friends? Hmmm. He cannot stand Kate even to touch her. His passive aggressive comments to her all the time? Calling her a bed hog? So not endearing! He does not want her near him at all! I think after Pastor Cal admonished him, he is acting nice for the camera, so as not to come off looking like the pr@ck he is, but his words say otherwise. If Kate really thinks he will come around, she is delusional. She looked so sad at girls' night out.
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Post by woodiedog on Feb 6, 2019 23:31:48 GMT
In the previews for next week, is someone asking if Luke or Kate has a drinking problem? I was watching with closed captioning (no sound) and I wasn't sure what I was reading.
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Post by provenceguy on Feb 7, 2019 1:10:57 GMT
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Post by amber on Feb 7, 2019 8:59:22 GMT
She might drink too much. And, maybe there is something to being drunk that led to the awful comment about the kiss. Or, maybe not. We'll eventually find out what's really going on with the edit and what is frakenbite and what isn't.
Thing is, Kate didn't disclose being a casual smoker, yet cigarettes to smoke from the start. It might be she just smokes when drinking, but to the ex-smoker me that translates to the girl is a smoker. Luke might prove to go be a jerk, but he might not ... we just don't know yet ...
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Post by Girly18 on Feb 7, 2019 15:23:39 GMT
I did catch him making a comment about how he knew she was going to have wine at the party and she said something like, yes...I like my wine.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Feb 7, 2019 15:28:06 GMT
I'd need something a bit stiffer than wine if I had been saddled with pukey Luke!
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Post by mika06 on Feb 9, 2019 14:24:22 GMT
AJ and Stephanie were boring this week which was a great thing to me it means they are settling in. The only issue is you never know when AJ is going to blow but Stephanie seems to be taking it in stride.
Keith and Kristine I'm really liking them shockingly I think they are moving at a great pace and it seems to be really working for them. Their 1st time being bad is not a flag if Keith hadn't had sex in a while that would happen. Nudes on the phone still that is a flag and if the previews are correct and she tells them to be deleted I agree with her they should have been when he got the call he was engaged.
Jasmine watching and critiquing Will making breakfast says a lot to me and I have to wonder if he's afraid of her critiquing his bedroom moves. If Jasmine is ready to have sex she should make the 1st move Will seems very sweet I doubt he will rebuff her. But if the situation that K+K experience were Will and Jasmine's experience would she react the same way Kristine had and laugh it off I have a feeling no. I love their Banter and Bond they've built but they both need to get out of their head and do this.
Kate and Luke so many red flags I can't even tell you and what he did with the party was beyond unreasonable and tells me he's only here for TV. I think he treats her nice in front of the producers and cameras and then says horrible things under his breath and when they are alone. And if the previews are correct he's accusing her of drinking too much but he's buying the drinks, he's a Gas lighter and building his excuses for later when he dumps her. I wish they would just break up now, right now. I really don't like him he's doing Kate very wrong.
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Post by justCoz on Feb 9, 2019 16:26:07 GMT
Kate and Luke so many red flags I can't even tell you and what he did with the party was beyond unreasonable and tells me he's only here for TV. I think he treats her nice in front of the producers and cameras and then says horrible things under his breath and when they are alone. And if the previews are correct he's accusing her of drinking too much but he's buying the drinks, he's a Gas lighter and building his excuses for later when he dumps her. I wish they would just break up now, right now. I really don't like him he's doing Kate very wrong. I see those red flags too. I was not at all impressed with him making derogatory comments to his friends before getting up and making an effort to introduce her to his friends. He invited all those people without checking with her to see if that kind of a situation would make her feel uncomfortable, then expected her to be fine with all them being there. I don't know her personally, but it doesn't appear she's that extroverted. Maybe inside he resents her for not recognizing him right away! His ego is pretty big, so I imagine that was quite the blow to it
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