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Post by justCoz on Sept 5, 2019 15:06:55 GMT
On one hand I feel sorry for Amber because she obviously wanted to give this her all. On the other hand, when she saw how he was treating her she needed to get a clue and start protecting her heart. The signs are all there that he's just not that into her. She has based all her feelings on their physical connection and nothing from the way he's been treating her less than respectfully. He has the nerve to blame her for being too clingy. I dont think expecting one's husband to be at home every night is an unreasonable expectation. Her best friend seems really sweet and I think the two of them should get together.
I was cracking up watching Unfiltered when they were throwing Matt under the bus and then driving that same bus over him a few times. The producers obviously got irritated with him too. What I can't figure out is if he really believes all the cr@p he spews or if he knows it's BS but just feels the need to say what he thinks everyone wants to hear.
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Post by nicksmom on Sept 5, 2019 15:58:26 GMT
It was a good show.
I’m scared Jamie and Beth are going to stay together . Hard to call.
But Amber in the previews just had me dropping my jaw like the professionals. Hoping it is editing and she kicks him to the curb. He definitely not all that into her or he wouldn’t have told his friend that stuff.
Iris and Keith probably will stay together too. He is pretty patient with her and seem to get along well other than that one problem...but even there is coming out of her shell.
I love love Devonna and Greg . There conversation when they were packing for decision day was so cute.
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Post by Critical on Sept 5, 2019 23:15:15 GMT
Here's a little of Iris' perspective: madamenoire.com/1097026/iris-keith-mafs/I can absolutely understand not wanting to discuss sex on camera, even if you ARE experienced. I know I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that. Bummer that Keith felt the need to throw her under the bus a little, after they'd made that agreement. That being said, I think they're a good match. Maybe Iris has said it off camera, but I wish we'd see her telling him that she very much looks forward to consummating the marriage and growing in that aspect of their relationship. It seems like, at least based on what we've seen, she's not articulating her interest in a physical relationship when she has expressed that to the camera. I just keep reminding myself that Jamie and Doug didn't consummate the relationship until after Decision Day. And that worked out pretty well! I really feel for Amber, but GOOD LORD, if you lie down on the floor, people will wipe their feet on you. I think Matt is just used to bs-ing his way out of things. I don't think he really believes what he's saying; he's just saying what he thinks everyone wants to hear and it's probably a tactic that's worked for him in the past. I had a boyfriend like that. In his case, I called it "New Kid Syndrome." He moved a lot as a kid, so he got really good at making friends quickly. Part of that was being whoever he needed to be and saying whatever he needed to say for people to like him. It really do wonder what's at the heart of Matt's estrangement from his family. His explanation seems pretty weak, IMO. I think Deonna and Greg are solid, in spite of the wavering in front of the camera. I'd be the most shocked if they broke up. Jamie and Elizabeth are just annoying at this point. I don't actually care if they stay together OR break up.
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Post by mina on Sept 8, 2019 19:00:09 GMT
Beth and Jamie- If I were her mother, I would have told her to leave the first time he called her a C***. And I definitely would have told her to say no on d-day. I'm sure that on camera her mom could only give her ambiguious advice. Jamie is insane. I can't believe he brought up sex problems and pinned it all on her at their last dinner together. I'm beginning to think he is a sex addict with other behavior /communication problems. Beth is insane too, but I think if she could get her crap together and CALM the hell down, she would attract someone that respects her on her own.
Iris and Keith- They are sweet together. He does need to romance her and she needs to be open to sex discussions off camera with him. It's fine to have that agreement for on camera, but they are married and they could be building intimacy emotionally and physically on their own. Is she saying that he's completely not interested in her off camera and doesn't open up to her at all? That's concerning. I hope they make it though.
Greg and Deonna were really cute playing pool.
Amber should ditch Matt and marry Raven. He cares enough to be straight with her. Why was Matt picked for this? I guess he said all the right things in his interviews.
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Post by Critical on Sept 8, 2019 23:55:43 GMT
Beth and Jamie- If I were her mother, I would have told her to leave the first time he called her a C***. And I definitely would have told her to say no on d-day. I'm sure that on camera her mom could only give her ambiguious advice. Jamie is insane. I can't believe he brought up sex problems and pinned it all on her at their last dinner together. I'm beginning to think he is a sex addict with other behavior /communication problems. Beth is insane too, but I think if she could get her crap together and CALM the hell down, she would attract someone that respects her on her own. Iris and Keith- They are sweet together. He does need to romance her and she needs to be open to sex discussions off camera with him. It's fine to have that agreement for on camera, but they are married and they could be building intimacy emotionally and physically on their own. Is she saying that he's completely not interested in her off camera and doesn't open up to her at all? That's concerning. I hope they make it though. Greg and Deonna were really cute playing pool. Amber should ditch Matt and marry Raven. He cares enough to be straight with her. Why was Matt picked for this? I guess he said all the right things in his interviews. Jamie is just sex-obsessed. Beth taking sex off the table (I think rightly) so they could focus on building emotional intimacy doesn't mean she's not a sexual being. If he thinks that being married means he can have sex whenever he wants, he's in for a rude awakening. You can be a sexual person without it clouding your judgment AND without wanting to have it ALL the time. Yeah, the second he called me a c***, I would have been GONE....or HE would have been because I would have booted his a$$ out of the house. I'd guess that her mother isn't aware that he called her daughter that or, IMO, her advice might have been different. I know my own mother would have been livid and likely never would have forgiven him.
I think maybe Keith is so freaked out about Iris' virginity that maybe it's causing him NOT to make any moves on her. We saw how kind of freaked out he was at the salsa class when she was grinding on him. IMO, she probably needs to make the first move and she needs to do it soon....even if the goal isn't consummating the marriage right away. I hope they make it too. I think they're a good match. I love that they both have really good relationships with their mothers. Both of their moms are such great ladies with, I think, good advice.
I wondered if maybe Raven is gay....or that he and Amber have been friends for SO long that they can't see each other in that way. Maybe he's married Still, ITA that he'd be a much better match for her than Matt. I'm sure Matt snowed the experts just like he did Amber. It's only after seeing his treatment of Amber that they're realizing that there's a disconnect between his words and his actions.
Greg and Deonna = Love those too. She reminds me so much of a dear friend of mine that I think I was immediately predisposed to like her. They look a bit a like, but they SOUND so much alike that they could be sisters.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Sept 9, 2019 0:18:03 GMT
Critical, Raven isn't married b/c he applied for MAFS at the same time as Amber. He and a blonde woman were almost chosen to be the fourth couple.
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Post by mina on Sept 9, 2019 11:18:59 GMT
Both Iris' and Keith's mom's are national treasures.
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Post by Girly18 on Sept 9, 2019 18:47:42 GMT
I don't post much but I do watch the show every week and love reading everyone's thoughts! Everyone basically says exactly what I'm thinking. I'm excited to watch decision day and see where everyone is at today.
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Post by Critical on Sept 12, 2019 5:50:21 GMT
UGH. SO sad for Iris. They had the potential for a really solid marriage, but it was like he just couldn't get over the sex stuff. It felt like he let that get in his head and he convinced himself that it was more important than anything else. IMO, they could have worked through things and had a lasting relationship. I still feel like they have potential. I'm SO proud of Amber! She finally stood up for herself and didn't let Matt off the hook. Loved Matt getting the stink eye from all of the experts....and from the other wives! Them grilling him at the end was excellent! Matt is a total scumbag. I'd like to think this will mean he's dead meat on the dating scene, but you KNOW there are always women willing to date creeps like that. I'm so glad Amber isn't one of them!
Very happy for Deonna and Greg....and cautiously optimistic about Jamie and Beth. Who else could deal with being married to either of them?
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Post by cavendish on Sept 12, 2019 8:37:08 GMT
Keith said he was attracted to iris—. But I have to wonder. Maybe he thought she was attractive but he somehow wasn’t actually attracted to her. The whole virgin thing did seem to throw him, but i can’t believe he really wanted to have sex with her — or in 8 weeks sleeping in the same bed, I don’t see how it wouldn’t have happened. He seemed to like and respect her but I don’t think they had chemistry.
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Post by cavendish on Sept 12, 2019 8:40:18 GMT
And for Matt, if Amber knew he was texting other women, I then don't see why she didn't walk away much sooner.
I'm even more appalled now that he was telling his friend that Amber was "clingy"-- and that it was "annoying" that she assumed the worst-- when he was cheating on her (in effect) from almost the beginning. It's like he heard that you get an all-expenses paid vacation in a resort and figured he deserved a break-- .
The moment when he took all the photos off the refrigerator and dumped them in the kitchen trash, in front of her, was pretty breath-taking.
The experts need to take some responsibility for choosing him in the first place. I don't know how much they simply take a person's word for his history and intentions, but if they did their due diligence, Matt would never (I hope) been chosen.
This is Matt's personal MO. It's all about Matt. He tells people what they want to hear, and then goes off and doing whatever... If the person is unhappy, he becomes dismissive and washes his hands of them and walks away. He had no remorse about his actions----- Problem solved-- for Matt.
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Post by Girly18 on Sept 12, 2019 14:45:30 GMT
Keith to me never seemed to be into Iris. I believe all the things he said to her about how great she is but he didn't feel a true connection. I think her being a virgin made him truly go into this decision with open eyes because he couldn't lead her on further after decision day. Although Iris is a virgin, I do see the immaturity he was talking about.
Was not surprised the other two couples stayed together. I hope Liz and Jamie's relationship has improved and Greg and D have got stronger.
So happy and proud that Amber stood up for herself. This will make her a stronger woman. She grew right before our eyes. Everything happens for a reason so I believe she will be better for this. As for Matt. The expressions on the experts and how much they were trying to hold back. He is all talk and I'm glad the wives called him on his shit. Although there has been a lot of flop spouses who didn't put in the work, he never did right from the get go. I truly do not know why he came on this show. I wonder if he applied for another reality show and was offered this one instead. Then just used it as an opportunity to get notoriety for his basketball career. IDK I'm spit balling here because I don't believe he ever was looking for a wife for life.
Anxious for the updates next week!
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Post by nicksmom on Sept 12, 2019 20:19:56 GMT
So happy Amber left the guy, like others said it should have happened mid way .
Iris and Keith was a surprise. I knew Iris wanted to stay , thought Keith would too. Hard to tell in the previews if they got back together.
Jamie and Beth, I thought for sure she was going to say no after all that speech on what he did to her. Preview for them look like they are fighting again.
Greg and Deonna so happy for them!
I was wondering how we could have 20 minutes left of show after they finished with the experts. Glad we got to see that exchange with Matt.
Next week should be good.
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Post by provenceguy on Sept 13, 2019 6:10:18 GMT
Iris sure looks different in the preview with her longer, straight hair. I don't like it as much.
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Post by mina on Sept 17, 2019 1:24:42 GMT
I really hope Matt didn't get paid for this. And I wish the experts had been harder on him. I'm glad Amber ended it; I was scared she was going to hang on. She was clingy and immature, but I feel awful for her and wish she had exposed him sooner so that he would have gotten kicked off the show.
Sad for Iris; I do think they seemed like a good couple and she met his dead grandma!!!!!! I do see the immaturity Keith was talking about in Iris though and that has nothing to do with her virginity.
Greg and Deonna=yay.
Uncle Fester and Beth= UGH!
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Post by mina on Sept 17, 2019 15:03:22 GMT
I wish the guys had spoken up to Matt at the cookout. The way he was acting was just so gross; like none of it mattered. I mean, no wonder his family won't speak to him.
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Post by nicksmom on Sept 19, 2019 14:49:47 GMT
Keith’s excuse was pretty lame for not wanting to date or stay married. It used to be the norm that you waited. But I again I can see his point to and not wanting to teach her and her not wanting too. Iris is so positive though, she will find her Prince Charming.
Amber got highlights. It was awkward watching back and seeing her throw herself at him even at the wedding. Matt still doesn’t get it. Even now Amber still wants to be friends just strange.
Can’t believe Beth and Jamie are still together. I still don’t think it will last. She still isn’t working either that will put a strain on the marriage too.
Greg and Deonna are still so cute, and she said I love you first. I don’t remember them saying he was allergic to the dog. Nice compromise not have it upstairs.
So we are having a Season 10..Washington D.C this time, here we go again.
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Post by l144s on Sept 19, 2019 19:03:31 GMT
I liked Amber until last night. I felt for her the whole time Matt was being a P*ick. But last night I wanted to shout "HE IS JUST NO INTO YOU" She came across as really needy in wanting to be friends with him. Matt should never have gone on the show.
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Post by cavendish on Sept 20, 2019 5:25:54 GMT
I'm not sure she wanted to be friends. She said she wanted to be cordial if they ran into one another, She did make a slip I think(I wasn't sure I heard right) when saying that he was physically so attractiveand anyone would want him as a husband. Um-- really? The way she was constantly turning and looking at him for a response did seem very off. If the therapists basically haven't stepped in to find her some help or support after their role in all this, it's very disturbing
I was struck by his claim that he knew it wouldn't work in the "first fifteen minutes." What he probably meant was that he knew it wouldn't work the instant he saw her-- which I tend to believe. His reaction when she was first standing next to him was visibly unhappy-- I don't know what it was, but I got the feeling that her height put him off. Amber seems like a rather short woman. I can totally imagine that that he dates taller women. I wish the therapists had wondered about how a really really tall guy would relate to a short woman-.
But who knows? he certainly got over his any physical qualms for the first week. guess the all-expenses paid vacation was a huge turn-on for him.
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Post by amber on Sept 20, 2019 9:54:58 GMT
Keith’s excuse was pretty lame for not wanting to date or stay married. It used to be the norm that you waited. But I again I can see his point to and not wanting to teach her and her not wanting too. Iris is so positive though, she will find her Prince Charming. Amber got highlights. It was awkward watching back and seeing her throw herself at him even at the wedding. Matt still doesn’t get it. Even now Amber still wants to be friends just strange. Can’t believe Beth and Jamie are still together. I still don’t think it will last. She still isn’t working either that will put a strain on the marriage too. Greg and Deonna are still so cute, and she said I love you first. I don’t remember them saying he was allergic to the dog. Nice compromise not have it upstairs. So we are having a Season 10..Washington D.C this time, here we go again. We watched Keith becoming disenchanted by Iris' emotional immaturity and what's shocking is what we were watching wasn't just an edit. I'm happy that Beth and Jamie are still trying to make it work. Good for them. And Greg and Deonna, too.
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Post by Girly18 on Oct 1, 2019 21:19:32 GMT
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Post by Critical on Oct 1, 2019 21:35:31 GMT
Oh, dear GOD. FIVE couples? That means we'll get even more craziness. I wonder if they'll ever figure out how to screen for people who "aren't there for the right reasons."
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Post by mika06 on Oct 1, 2019 22:52:00 GMT
Oh, dear GOD. FIVE couples? That means we'll get even more craziness. I wonder if they'll ever figure out how to screen for people who "aren't there for the right reasons." I think the issue is when the recruit people. in order to get younger men (especially black men) they are recruiting them. I think they need to stop taking random off the street. I also think they need to do more older couples and interracial couples. They said they can’t do same sex couples because they would have meet during the interview process.
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Post by provenceguy on Oct 8, 2019 16:00:48 GMT
Amber from last season has posted pix that seem to indicate she is dating Will from the season prior?
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Post by mina on Oct 8, 2019 16:41:53 GMT
Well he did want to be a youth basketball coach, something that Jas never really was supportive of since it would mean he wasn't a high earner anymore. I could see Amber really getting behind him and encouraging him in that. I ship it.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Oct 8, 2019 17:13:19 GMT
Amber from last season has posted pix that seem to indicate she is dating Will from the season prior? North Carolina to Philly long distance? Well, good luck with that. I always liked Will, although he seemed to be disliked by many. Jasmine's 'the man pays all the bills' left a bad taste early on and I think turned him off totally. I still think Amber needs to work on herself before she plunges into dating, again, but wishing both of them the best.
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Post by provenceguy on Oct 19, 2019 17:18:36 GMT
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Post by provenceguy on Dec 6, 2019 17:18:26 GMT
Mafs Fan says that Beth and Jamie broke up just before Thanksgiving.
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Post by Girly18 on Dec 6, 2019 18:02:06 GMT
Mafs Fan says that Beth and Jamie broke up just before Thanksgiving. I read that too. If they divorce before February MAFS will pay for it. Jamie said he will give an update soon. Looks like she called it off.
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Post by Girly18 on Dec 6, 2019 18:02:28 GMT
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