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Post by bloomers on Aug 31, 2018 19:18:45 GMT
The Bachelor in Paradise Reunion was taped the other day. Sources evidently in addition to Reality Steve are stating that as of now the new Bachelor is Colton. Reality Steve who thought up to the Reunion taping that it would not be Colton has stated that the producers have been known to change their mind a day or two before the official announcement, but this is what he is hearing now - as well as other sources. He doesn't know why. His guess is that Colton in some ways mimics Sean - football player, strong values, no background problems, etc., and .....Sean was serious. He married Catherine....and he has had babies. Another speculation thrown out there was that Colton was set up in BIP in the TIA situation. That had to play out as part of his story line, and it was an audition. I like Colton, but he is really getting it. Fire away!
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 31, 2018 19:29:26 GMT
I saw that about Colton. Sometimes RS is wrong..I have liked Colton all along, even on BIP.
I'm sure there are plenty of actresses who want to date him..lol
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Post by Arielflies on Aug 31, 2018 19:43:02 GMT
I read in the BiP thread that they will announce their choice next Tuesday on GMA. whoopee.
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Post by bloomers on Aug 31, 2018 19:58:14 GMT
I saw that about Coton. Sometimes RS is wrong..I have liked Colton all along, even on BIP. I'm sure there are plenty of actresses who want to date him..lol He has said this was what he has heard. He also said they changed on a dime a couple of days before the official announcement - Nick and Arie - were put in place of who they had chosen when there were supposedly sticking spots in the negotiations on some of them. This one is not in concrete until it is announced. This is speculation!It needs to be noted, here though, that RS is not the only or even the lead source on this one. Evidently, this tidbit got out to sources (plural) during or right after the taping of the BIP Reunion Show. I went to Google looking for news as I do every few days. Last night I hit the Jackpot. All kinds of titles and articles, including RS's first tweet, came up. I read several and then linked back to his article for his speculation.
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 31, 2018 20:33:36 GMT
I'm not surprise it's Colton, not at all..he was in the running, along with Jason and Ben( no not again) Higgins
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Post by Critical on Aug 31, 2018 20:50:49 GMT
I've read too many blind items and rumors about Colton batting for the other team on the down low (being seen on what were obviously dates with men in various places, etc.). At this point, nothing would surprise me. I think he'd be a terrible bachelor, but apparently, he's the type America likes. I don't think he's a bad guy, but I think he's boring.
I thought Sean was awful too. So white bread and bland.
He's not my type physically, but I'd be happy with Jason. I like it when they can actually form full sentences and articulate their thoughts and feelings.
I'd also be thrilled if they just chose an unknown. That's worked well in the past.
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Post by bloomers on Sept 1, 2018 0:18:02 GMT
I've read too many blind items and rumors about Colton batting for the other team on the down low (being seen on what were obviously dates with men in various places, etc.). At this point, nothing would surprise me. I think he'd be a terrible bachelor, but apparently, he's the type America likes. I don't think he's a bad guy, but I think he's boring. I thought Sean was awful too. So white bread and bland. He's not my type physically, but I'd be happy with Jason. I like it when they can actually form full sentences and articulate their thoughts and feelings. I'd also be thrilled if they just chose an unknown. That's worked well in the past. Some of those unknowns?  Byron (?) the Vegas fisherman may have been ruggedly good-looking, but he was really rough around the edges. By the time F1 Mary Delgado had spent time fishing with him for a while, she was into drinking and physical violence - 2 traits no one had known her for previously. Dr. Travis Stork is a well known tv personality now, but then he was a very reluctant Bachelor who was NOT interested in finding love. He was a resident doctor at Vanderbilt, and all he really wanted to do was to finish his residency. The producers talked him into doing the Bachelor. My suspicion ( my strong suspicion) is that they were willing to help him with his student medical loans - they wanted a doctor bachelor badly. It came out, and it was revealed by his people that he made a behind the scenes deal with hometown girl, Sara. She would be the F1, and "they would ( very loosely) see where it goes" which it never did. Jesse Palmer? The nicest thing I can say is that whole season was a farce. Those unknowns didn't always work well either because they didn't really know what they were getting. They had a hard enough time controlling the lead when they did know what they were getting. Unknowns were some time worse.
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Post by Critical on Sept 1, 2018 2:13:10 GMT
Eh, regardless of what happened after his season, I thought Byron was great DURING his season. He was mature and engaging and respectful. Remember how he didn't sleep with Tanya (sp?) on the overnights because he didn't want to have to explain that to his future in-laws? How he learned Spanish so he could speak to Mary's parents? I'd maintain that Mary wasn't exactly the picture of stability before she met Byron - remember all that talk about her eggs? Repeatedly? He might have been a jerk off-screen - my brother went to high school with him and knew him quite well (he and Byron were best friends of two brothers) and did say he was an a-hole back then, but that can be said of a lot of 16 year olds. Onscreen, I thought he was a terrific bachelor.
Andy Baldwin later was shown to be a bit of a douche, but I enjoyed his season. I liked Charlie O'Connell's season too. I loved how he mixed things up, like when he showed up to see all of the girls when they were still in their pjs with no makeup on. Excellent.
I can't blame any of the leads for not finding lasting love. I mean, what are the odds of that happening? I thought Travis was fine. If they paid off his debts, that's just good negotiating on his part!  Jesse Palmer? That's another one who's had a lot of gay rumors. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he went on for his image.
I'm just sick to death of retreads. I'd rather they try their luck at an unknown rather than subjecting us to a season of boring Colton. He's like a giant golden retriever. Maybe they're good dogs, but as potential husbands? As TV show leads? Meh.
All of this discussion would be moot if Peter would just agree to propose to someone at the end. Because he has principles and won't agree to that, we're stuck with whoever else, including Arie and the next boring guy.
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Post by bloomers on Sept 2, 2018 11:11:53 GMT
Peter was always my choice for Bachelor, but I can't blame him for sticking to something he believes in so badly. I think, however, they would have a lot of trouble handling and manipulating him, and I think he would resent them the rest of his life.
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 2, 2018 13:01:59 GMT
I'm not sure why Peter would go on the show, or be a lead, when he's not ready to commit.
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Post by bloomers on Sept 2, 2018 20:26:19 GMT
I'm not sure why Peter would go on the show, or be a lead, when he's not ready to commit. I never felt that he wasn't ready to commit. He realized that Rachel was as heavily involved with Byron - if not more - than she was with him. Peter's principle was that he personally wanted to propose only once, and that was who he would marry. If he proposed to Rachel and she chose Byron, that idea was shot down for him. Rachel could not begin to give him any assurance that would happen if he proposed to her - not only because she wasn't allowed to but also because she knew Byron was the one she had settled on. Peter intuitively picked up on this. Peter's issue with the producers was most likely that if he fell in love with the F1, he would propose. However, if he did not feel like at the end of the time, he had found the ONE, he did not want to be forced to spend his first proposal on the F1. The Bachelor ( especially Mike Fleiss) wants a proposal at the end, so I don't think they could come to an agreement.
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 2, 2018 21:01:44 GMT
I'm not sure why Peter would go on the show, or be a lead, when he's not ready to commit. I never felt that he wasn't ready to commit. He realized that Rachel was as heavily involved with Byron - if not more - than she was with him. Peter's principle was that he personally wanted to propose only once, and that was who he would marry. If he proposed to Rachel and she chose Byron, that idea was shot down for him. Rachel could not begin to give him any assurance that would happen if he proposed to her - not only because she wasn't allowed to but also because she knew Byron was the one she had settled on. Peter intuitively picked up on this. Peter's issue with the producers was most likely that if he fell in love with the F1, he would propose. However, if he did not feel like at the end of the time, he had found the ONE, he did not want to be forced to spend his first proposal on the F1. The Bachelor ( especially Mike Fleiss) wants a proposal at the end, so I don't think they could come to an agreement. Yes, I agree. I'm just saying I don't think he's bachelor material..he was going to be on BIP winter games, but they never called him even after MF tweeted he would be on it.. They have a strange relationship with him imho ..maybe he's in their back pocket until they need him?
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Post by bloomers on Sept 3, 2018 12:33:24 GMT
I never felt that he wasn't ready to commit. He realized that Rachel was as heavily involved with Byron - if not more - than she was with him. Peter's principle was that he personally wanted to propose only once, and that was who he would marry. If he proposed to Rachel and she chose Byron, that idea was shot down for him. Rachel could not begin to give him any assurance that would happen if he proposed to her - not only because she wasn't allowed to but also because she knew Byron was the one she had settled on. Peter intuitively picked up on this. Peter's issue with the producers was most likely that if he fell in love with the F1, he would propose. However, if he did not feel like at the end of the time, he had found the ONE, he did not want to be forced to spend his first proposal on the F1. The Bachelor ( especially Mike Fleiss) wants a proposal at the end, so I don't think they could come to an agreement. Yes, I agree. I'm just saying I don't think he's bachelor material..he was going to be on BIP winter games, but they never called him even after MF tweeted he would be on it.. They have a strange relationship with him imho ..maybe he's in their back pocket until they need him? I agree. They did that with Arie. On one occasion they went so far as to film the early shots at his home and 'round about and then decided not to use him. Evidently, he was in talks with them 2 or 3 times before they called him at the very last moment for his season. They needed someone in a pinch, and he was it. If they get to that point with Peter, they will come to some kind of a compromise with him.
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Post by bloomers on Sept 3, 2018 12:45:33 GMT
I've read too many blind items and rumors about Colton batting for the other team on the down low (being seen on what were obviously dates with men in various places, etc.). At this point, nothing would surprise me. I think he'd be a terrible bachelor, but apparently, he's the type America likes. I don't think he's a bad guy, but I think he's boring. I thought Sean was awful too. So white bread and bland. He's not my type physically, but I'd be happy with Jason. I like it when they can actually form full sentences and articulate their thoughts and feelings. I'd also be thrilled if they just chose an unknown. That's worked well in the past. They could pull a big surprise and pull out Jason on the reveal announcement. They would love it because the spoiler articles are rampant all over the internet - Colton. Somebody interviewed Tia. The writer freely admitted since we have not yet seen Tia and Colton break up on BIP that Tia should play coy. Tia did not. Tia said about what I expected her to say. She doesn't know if Colton is (emotionally) ready for it ( because they just broke up). However, #1 that is what is said about all the leads regardless of individual circumstances - some of the break-ups are more brutal than others - and yet they all manage to do fine, and #2 the break-up of concern ( in my opinion here) is the one with Becca not Tia, and that was in March (?). By the time he gets into the process, he will have had time to get out of the Becca bubble, get excited, get acclimated, and be ready to seek his own relationship.
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Post by Critical on Sept 4, 2018 10:27:55 GMT
I'd love it if the rumors were wrong, but I feel like BIP was Colton's audition. I've watched every season, but I may take a pass if he's cast. I find him dull and tedious, with as much depth as a vernal pool. Can you imagine ALL the conversations with various women who will claim to respect his virginity? UGH.
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Post by Arielflies on Sept 4, 2018 13:28:42 GMT
Rumors are correct. Also, did you know Colton has a children's charity?
Michael welcomes him to GMA this morning. I got the news from the local abc station early morning news. sigh
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 4, 2018 14:18:57 GMT
I see Nick Vile was in the audience. He's the last person Colton should listen to.
Sean was never my type, but I enjoyed his season, so I'll see what Colton is like. I don't think it will be a very exciting season, but then neither was Becca's who ended up with ferret face. She had undeniable chemistry with Colton..
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Post by bloomers on Sept 4, 2018 14:20:34 GMT
They asked Tanner for his advice which was select someone who was going to fit well into his outside, everyday life. They asked Nick's advice, and he told Colton to curb the tears.
Colton looked good, and he looked composed. I suppose he has already had some coaching.
The battle between the two Bachelor teams was fun with Carly and Evan within her team winning. Also within her team were Jason and Mollie.
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Post by MissGriss on Sept 4, 2018 15:45:26 GMT
If they are looking for Sean 2.0, they will be disappointed. Colton is nowhere near ready to seriously commit to anyone.
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Post by karna68 on Sept 4, 2018 16:05:08 GMT
MF's idea of an unknown is a D list celebrity  or a "character" like a Doctor. I want an average Joe off the street that knows the show and WANTS the gig, is that so hard? They constantly advertise for people to be on the show. I'll probably watch Colton but I too worry if he's ready. Didn't he say to the guy (can't remember who it was) he was talking to last night that he always pushes women away? I guess we'll see...
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Post by momrek06 on Sept 4, 2018 16:14:18 GMT
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 4, 2018 16:14:57 GMT
MF's idea of an unknown is a D list celebrity  or a "character" like a Doctor. I want an average Joe off the street that knows the show and WANTS the gig, is that so hard? They constantly advertise for people to be on the show. I'll probably watch Colton but I too worry if he's ready. Didn't he say to the guy (can't remember who it was) he was talking to last night that he always pushes women away? I guess we'll see... He said something about never liking to hurt people, and he ends up doing that. I never saw anything between Colton and Tia, except friend zone. But with everyone saying he had to do right by her, he used her etc. I think he thought he'd try..epic fail. He said she won't be on the show, that alone pleases me. I've also seen enough of Becca..
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Post by AlwaysVeg on Sept 4, 2018 16:52:36 GMT
Ugh, Colton. He's so boring that I actually fell asleep during his final breakup with Tia on BIP last night. They might as well change the name of the show to "The Virgin" because we're going to hear about that the whole season. I do hope they make some effort to limit those conversations.
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 4, 2018 17:58:00 GMT
I'd say I'm not going to watch, but I know I will. Especially in January.. 
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Post by bloomers on Sept 4, 2018 19:12:05 GMT
Upfront....this is pure speculation, based on what I DO know about the incredible manipulation ( much of it beyond belief subtle) that goes on with the all the contestants, including the leads.
Colton's story line in the Becca season ended with the Tia saga. Tia, of course, intervened when she saw Colton had made it to Hometowns and told Becca she still had feelings for Colton. Because Becca did not tell Tia that she ( Becca) would have to make her decision based on her own feelings, it appeared to many fans that a door was left open for an unfinished Colton-Tia story to conclude. Thus, we have seen the story play out to a conclusion in Bachelor in Paradise.
Here is where the speculation/manipulation comes in... I personally think Colton left to his own devices would most likely not have called Tia again for a date. I do think he was subtly approached with the idea that sounded something give or take like this:
"We will be selecting a new Bachelor for next season, and your name has been mentioned along with several others. There is this question with Tia. Fans will want to know how this issue was resolved. There are no promises. You understand that? However, Tia will be on Bachelor in Paradise this summer. Think about this. You could go to Paradise this summer and work on a relationship with Tia. Pause....What do you have to lose? You get a vacation; if it works out, you have found love. If it does not, the lingering issue from Becca's season has been resolved, and we can consider you for the next Bachelor. (Dangle the prospect of the next Bachelor over his head - promise him nothing).
The producers have a major drama story line in BIP, a resolution to the conflict in the Colton-Tia issue in Becca's season, an audition for Bachelor from Colton ( who was set- up), and wellah, they have their next Bachelor.
The cry on social media is that there has been an overload, especially due to the Tia-Colton emphasis; however, the Bachelor's viewpoint has always been that out of the so many millions that watch, only a small percentage actually use social media.
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Post by MissScarlet on Sept 4, 2018 19:19:44 GMT
I say go for it. Revolt & complain all they want. It's their turn to cry. I totally skipped The Bachelor for the last 2 seasons because I couldn't stand the leads. In fact, I couldn't understand what on earth TPTB were thinking in choosing them. I didn't want to even look at them, much less watch them pretend to be choosing someone while all they wanted was TV exposure. As for the previous Bachelor, Ben H, I started watching, but was bored to tears and quit before the halfway mark. I tuned back in for the Finale, but didn't care. I like Colton. He seems like a good guy, is easy on the eyes, and is respectful. Hopefully he'll be fun. Who knows. I wasn't at all enthused over any of the speculated candidates, but they all seemed like good guys. All I know is I'll be watching this time for a change. I'm looking forward to it. I say it's my turn to watch, so let the complainers skip the season. I did, so they can too. Colton will be just fine by me, as would any of them have been.
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 4, 2018 19:29:36 GMT
I love part of his tweet.. LOL, has she seen this show? Big Brother has had more success stories..
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Post by Critical on Sept 4, 2018 19:45:54 GMT
This tweet from that article sums it up for me: [under a pic of Colton] "If you ever wanted to see what a yawn looked like in physical form.”
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 4, 2018 19:54:55 GMT
I did lot of that during Becca's season( although I did a bit of online shopping as well)
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Post by MissScarlet on Sept 4, 2018 21:11:05 GMT
Another thing I like about Colton is that he shaves. I know, it's a petty thing & not the norm these days, but I still think a guy looks much better cleanly shaved. Looks like he's making an effort. Also I like them to dress well, whether in suit or casual clothes. Make the effort.
"Every girl's crazy 'bout a sharped dressed man."
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