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Post by FireWoman on Apr 13, 2023 18:00:47 GMT
I am not into the Royals AT ALL. I have probably posted on this page MAYBE 3x. Anyway when I did read in the News that Megan is staying home to be with the children? Megan's Mother has been watching and caring for them since Archie was born so now Megan isn't not going because of the children Why can't her Mother watch them? AND the fact it is Archie's birthday. A 4yo birthday can be celebrated ANY TIME. Is Archie even going to know it's his birthday and the fact Harry will be at the Coronation is obvious Megan will NOT be celebrating Archie WITHOUT his father. I think (personally) it's rude she is NOT attending the Coronation. JMHO. Hell, she could have traveled with him, and their kids, if the birthday was that big of a deal to her (them). She did not have to be involved in the coronation if it was an issue for any party. I do agree that it is bad either way, If she does not go it's a snub, if she does go that will distract from the reason of the day. I think the way they BOTH went about this business is all bad on their parts. If you were not going to attend, fine, tell them in a timely manner.. if you are, or one of you will be attending then do the same. Don't add more drama... and that is all they did in this. People the love them will always love them at this point, but the ones that have a less than favorable opinion this only deepens their disdain I feel. Now, I am not a fan of Chucky or his wife, but I will be watching and I am interested because it is history... we only have the chance to witness 1 or 2 of these events every 100 years or so. I do hope I am around long enough to see William and Kate's coronation but who knows with the way these Mountbatten-Windsors stick around... Chucky may be on the throne a good 15-20 years.
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Post by Cuddles on Apr 13, 2023 18:59:55 GMT
Back on page 97 (Feb '23) we had a discussion about Fergie. I questioned why she'd suddenly fallen into their good grace, and attached an article about her being persona non grata for years (since 1992) etc.
So if she and Camilla have grown to be such good friends, why hasn't Fergie gotten an invitation?
I said I felt suspicious and that I'd hate to see her get hurt again... I'm guessing that now she has.
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 13, 2023 19:57:24 GMT
I am not into the Royals AT ALL. I have probably posted on this page MAYBE 3x. Anyway when I did read in the News that Megan is staying home to be with the children? Megan's Mother has been watching and caring for them since Archie was born so now Megan isn't not going because of the children Why can't her Mother watch them? AND the fact it is Archie's birthday. A 4yo birthday can be celebrated ANY TIME. Is Archie even going to know it's his birthday and the fact Harry will be at the Coronation is obvious Megan will NOT be celebrating Archie WITHOUT his father. I think (personally) it's rude she is NOT attending the Coronation. JMHO. Hell, she could have traveled with him, and their kids, if the birthday was that big of a deal to her (them). She did not have to be involved in the coronation if it was an issue for any party. I do agree that it is bad either way, If she does not go it's a snub, if she does go that will distract from the reason of the day. I think the way they BOTH went about this business is all bad on their parts. If you were not going to attend, fine, tell them in a timely manner.. if you are, or one of you will be attending then do the same. Don't add more drama... and that is all they did in this. People the love them will always love them at this point, but the ones that have a less than favorable opinion this only deepens their disdain I feel. Now, I am not a fan of Chucky or his wife, but I will be watching and I am interested because it is history... we only have the chance to witness 1 or 2 of these events every 100 years or so. I do hope I am around long enough to see William and Kate's coronation but who knows with the way these Mountbatten-Windsors stick around... Chucky may be on the throne a good 15-20 years. Absolutely, FireWoman, I could care less about what the Royals do on a daily basis. What they say, what they do, what they wear, where they go BUT like you I will DEFINITELY watch the CORONATION as it is HISTORY being made.
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 13, 2023 21:48:45 GMT
Hell, she could have traveled with him, and their kids, if the birthday was that big of a deal to her (them). She did not have to be involved in the coronation if it was an issue for any party. I do agree that it is bad either way, If she does not go it's a snub, if she does go that will distract from the reason of the day. I think the way they BOTH went about this business is all bad on their parts. If you were not going to attend, fine, tell them in a timely manner.. if you are, or one of you will be attending then do the same. Don't add more drama... and that is all they did in this. People the love them will always love them at this point, but the ones that have a less than favorable opinion this only deepens their disdain I feel. Now, I am not a fan of Chucky or his wife, but I will be watching and I am interested because it is history... we only have the chance to witness 1 or 2 of these events every 100 years or so. I do hope I am around long enough to see William and Kate's coronation but who knows with the way these Mountbatten-Windsors stick around... Chucky may be on the throne a good 15-20 years. Absolutely, FireWoman , I could care less about what the Royals do on a daily basis. What they say, what they do, what they wear, where they go BUT like you I will DEFINITELY watch the CORONATION as it is HISTORY being made. That's why we're watching, and to see the grandchildren , that are able to take part
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Post by AZChristian on Apr 14, 2023 0:15:06 GMT
Strange that they could celebrate Lilibet's first birthday on a trip to England, but can't do the same for Archie in England. I barely remember 4 - sure don't remember my birthday. Maybe if I were in England and there was a big parade it would be easier to remember.
Just my opinion - to which I am entitled - I don't think Meghan was ever planning to go to the coronation. I'm glad Harry will be there in recognition of the unique situation of his father being crowned the King of England.
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Post by Arielflies on Apr 14, 2023 2:22:56 GMT
TV was brand new and we lived near a large city so we had a good signal. I watched Elisabeth's coronation in 1953 and will now watch Charles' coronation. History in front of my eyes - at least history repeating in a pleasing way.
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Post by sunnydayz on Apr 14, 2023 2:57:14 GMT
TV was brand new and we lived near a large city so we had a good signal. I watched Elisabeth's coronation in 1953 and will now watch Charles' coronation. History in front of my eyes - at least history repeating in a pleasing way. Very cool! I'm here for it all! The history, the adorable kids, the crowds....looking forward to watching!
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Post by AZChristian on Apr 14, 2023 3:27:03 GMT
TV was brand new and we lived near a large city so we had a good signal. I watched Elisabeth's coronation in 1953 and will now watch Charles' coronation. History in front of my eyes - at least history repeating in a pleasing way. You and I share a similar story! Just asked hubby if he wanted to get up with me at 2:00 AM here in Arizona to watch the coronation and the parade. He's in! Even offered to make coffee.
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Post by MissGriss on Apr 14, 2023 4:39:34 GMT
Question….
I keep seeing people here say that Meghan and Harry could have brought the kids with them to the coronation, but I thought that the kids weren’t invited.
I’m not sure where I got that impression. Does anyone know for sure what the deal is on that front?
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 14, 2023 5:46:51 GMT
Question…. I keep seeing people here say that Meghan and Harry could have brought the kids with them to the coronation, but I thought that the kids weren’t invited. I’m not sure where I got that impression. Does anyone know for sure what the deal is on that front? I think MissGriss posters that said that meant to the UK. Then Megan's mother could watch the children while they are all in London and while Harry and Megan attend the Coronation.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Apr 14, 2023 11:55:34 GMT
I don't give a damn about HER and HER family. They're just another pothead family that doesn't need to live in California. So annoying. I do give a damn about Harry and Meghan. I like them very much, and I wish them well. (PS Pot is very much legal in California, and is WIDELY used by many, many people all over the state, the country, and the world! So there's no shame in that, any more than there's shame in drinking alcohol or taking Valium or taking any other (legal) substance that helps to lighten your mood and make life more enjoyable.)
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Post by Cuddles on Apr 14, 2023 14:41:51 GMT
From my perspective as the second born in a family who lives by the same rules as our English ancestors, I not only understand, but I wholeheartedly agree with the decision they’ve made. The favorability will never change, it is set in stone, and it goes deeper than privilege or inheritance. You will never receive the same attention or approval nor will your children ever be treated or loved the same way as their cousins. You can either subject yourself to the pain or just accept it for what it is and focus on the family that you do have. That doesn’t mean that Harry doesn’t love his dad. It is what it is but dare you ever stand up to it because then you will become the dark horse. The truth of the matter is what the Sussexes will have to focus on. No one from the royal family showed up for Lilibet’s christening despite being invited. And Archie wasn’t invited to his grandfather’s coronation even though it is a special day for him, too. Their personal possessions are no longer at Frogmore nor are any of the people that Archie has come to share his time with, and he is turning four while Lilibet was only one. But narrative like that doesn’t lend itself to keeping them as ‘the problem’. They didn’t know if they were being invited until early March and from that point forward there was apparently a back and forth about security, lodging, and participation. The length of a two-way conversation cannot be blamed on just one party, but it has been. All the Sussexes have asked for is a well-deserved apology but it appears they still have not gotten one. In fact, the same behavior they wish an apology for still continues. Stories were recently planted about how Kate found walking with Harry and Meghan the ‘hardest thing.' Timely, right? Message received: Meghan understands. Harry understands. Anyone who has been treated this way in a family understands. I wish them all peace in their separate corners. Despite my heritage I won’t be watching as I think it is time for the institution to fold. Prince Charles is King Charles III - an excellent reason to end the monarch
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Post by amber on Apr 14, 2023 20:37:28 GMT
I don't give a damn about HER and HER family. They're just another pothead family that doesn't need to live in California. So annoying. I do give a damn about Harry and Meghan. I like them very much, and I wish them well. (PS Pot is very much legal in California, and is WIDELY used by many, many people all over the state, the country, and the world! So there's no shame in that, any more than there's shame in drinking alcohol or taking Valium or taking any other (legal) substance that helps to lighten your mood and make life more enjoyable.) Just as I am, you are entitled to bestow grace upon anyone you please, warts and all. They are just too many warts for me. I am a born and lifelong California. THEY are entitled to live their lives, and I would just prefer these pothead fakes live somewhere else. Maybe there are those outside of California that could invite them to live in their backyard. Any takers? (PS. There IS SHAME if smoking weed daily and weed is a gateway drug. Recall Harry recently body slamming a UK photographer? Harry's pupils were dilated. It's become rare to closely examine a clear photo of Harry in outdoors sunlight where his pupils aren't dilated. Harry's drug use habits are documented in his book and referenced during his pay per view counseling session. Thing is, I don't think the Pothead Prince's wife likes getting loaded and makes me wonder, why would she put up with her husband regularly being lit.)
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Post by amber on Apr 15, 2023 4:07:20 GMT
Imperfect, it's not personal. However, obviously, I have thoughts. California has changed drastically, and not for the better. The number of drug addicts lining sidewalks regularly increases, and I don't see the value of a drugged-out Prince slipping in and presenting himself as part of the problem.
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 15, 2023 6:23:44 GMT
Imperfect, it's not personal. However, obviously, I have thoughts. California has changed drastically, and not for the better. The number of drug addicts lining sidewalks regularly increases, and I don't see the value of a drugged-out Prince slipping in and presenting himself as part of the problem. It's the same here. Dogs will eat the butts if they can , and get very ill, or die. Outside, walking, there's a skunky smell. It's bad enough drinking and driving, now we have stoned and driving. I hate it. Harry has dabbled in more than pot, I hope he doesn't go too far.
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Post by MissScarlet on Apr 15, 2023 6:49:33 GMT
So many people keep saying that Harry & Meghan could take their children with them & have her mother watch them. Well....... Why on earth would Meghan want to go anyhow? After all the put downs, accusations, insults, and fabrications or exaggerations that have been thrown at her, why on earth would she want to go there & make it even worse, and in front of her children to boot? Why on earth subject herself to that? Going back there isn't exactly an enjoyable vacation for her. She's already lived through it. Why voluntarily expose herself to more insults & abuse?
My mother used to tell us when someone gave us a hard time as kids: "Well, stay away from them!" That's exactly what she's doing.
Good old Chucky & his bimbo (sorry for the name calling, but that's the nicest one I could think of. I changed it 3 times) aren't her relatives. They're Harry's. And we all know you can't pick your relatives. You just have to accept the fact, like it or not.
Harry is kind of obligated to be there. I'm glad he's going. As for their children, the RF have shown no interest in getting to know them. Except for Princesses Eugenie & Beatrice. Why show up & be treated like dirty gum on the bottom of their shoes?
I'll probably watch some of the Coronation on TV, after all, as others have said, it is History. Once the fawning all over Chucky gets going I'm out. I figure that will take less than a half an hour.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Apr 15, 2023 10:03:57 GMT
Imperfect, it's not personal. However, obviously, I have thoughts. California has changed drastically, and not for the better. The number of drug addicts lining sidewalks regularly increases, and I don't see the value of a drugged-out Prince slipping in and presenting himself as part of the problem. amber, thank you for that. I do realize that we all have different opinions and I always want to state mine (hopefully in a non-personal, non-aggressive way.) By the way, I agree with you about the homeless. California was my home too, for most of my life, and it is heartbreaking to see the homeless situation there, as it sadly is in many, many other places as well. I'm an RN and an attorney, and I've dealt with the homeless situation medically and legally. These people are not all drug addicts. Many are, but many are alcoholics. Many are mentally ill. Many are just desperately poor. etc. etc. etc. If only the government (federal and local) could stop being so voraciously divided politically to work together to SOLVE some of these problems and find some kind of help for these street people and places for them to live.
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Post by amber on Apr 16, 2023 7:15:24 GMT
It's not illegal to pull down your pants and play with your thing in public. It's not illegal to defecate in front of a supermarket. I agree that not all out-of-control homeless are substance abusers, but the overwhelming majority are. It's gross.
It is also gross to see Prince Harry looped when recently exiting a car to enter the private club with Meghan in front of the paparazzi they arranged to take their photographs ... I assume in an attempt to change the narrative after being lampooned by South Park. It's one thing to stage a diversion. It's entirely another to do it when wasted in public.
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Post by amber on Apr 16, 2023 7:26:19 GMT
So many people keep saying that Harry & Meghan could take their children with them & have her mother watch them. Well....... Why on earth would Meghan want to go anyhow? After all the put downs, accusations, insults, and fabrications or exaggerations that have been thrown at her, why on earth would she want to go there & make it even worse, and in front of her children to boot? Why on earth subject herself to that? Going back there isn't exactly an enjoyable vacation for her. She's already lived through it. Why voluntarily expose herself to more insults & abuse? My mother used to tell us when someone gave us a hard time as kids: "Well, stay away from them!" That's exactly what she's doing. Good old Chucky & his bimbo (sorry for the name calling, but that's the nicest one I could think of. I changed it 3 times) aren't her relatives. They're Harry's. And we all know you can't pick your relatives. You just have to accept the fact, like it or not. Harry is kind of obligated to be there. I'm glad he's going. As for their children, the RF have shown no interest in getting to know them. Except for Princesses Eugenie & Beatrice. Why show up & be treated like dirty gum on the bottom of their shoes? I'll probably watch some of the Coronation on TV, after all, as others have said, it is History. Once the fawning all over Chucky gets going I'm out. I figure that will take less than a half an hour. MissScarlet, Meghan Markle isn't liked any better here than she is there. However, if she can't suck it up and show up, why deny the children --- the ones she and Harry lobbied for their titles --- time with their extended family during the coronation?
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Post by FireWoman on Apr 16, 2023 8:07:01 GMT
It's not illegal to pull down your pants and play with your thing in public. It's not illegal to defecate in front of a supermarket. I agree that not all out-of-control homeless are substance abusers, but the overwhelming majority are. It's gross. It is also gross to see Prince Harry looped when recently exiting a car to enter the private club with Meghan in front of the paparazzi they arranged to take their photographs ... I assume in an attempt to change the narrative after being lampooned by South Park. It's one thing to stage a diversion. It's entirely another to do it when wasted in public. I am going to assume that the beginning of this post is sarcasm in some from? Because those things are not legal, just ask Paul Reubens. I also disagree with the fact you state that the overwhelming majority of homelessness is because of substance-abuse. Actually, it is only about a third, or just over. In addition, it is not that they’re homeless, because they are substance abusers, but rather they are substance abusers now that they are homeless. The numbers are vastly different for women who are homeless, about 60% of them are suffering from some form of mental illness. Furthermore, the overwhelming number of military veterans that are homeless is what’s actually gross to me. I know this is not a thread to discuss this, but I did feel it necessary to point out that no it is not an overwhelming majority of people who are among the nations homeless are that way because they’re substance abusers. That is totally misinformation. As much as both Meghan and Harry irritate, and annoy me as of late I do feel that both could benefit from some type of therapy. It’s obvious that Harry has issues, he wrote a whole book about them. In looking at his wife and her family situation, I truly believe she has some deep-seated mental issues as well that she needs to work through. I don’t think I am the only one that finds it odd that the only family member she chooses to associate with is her mother. No other family, the ones we hear about in the news excluded of course, is ever talked about or alluded to. From someone who had such an amazing childhood that makes you wonder what happened. When it comes to Harry and his drug use, I believe it stems from his mental and emotional state growing up the way he did, and losing his mother, so young, and the way he did as well. I’m not condoning the use, but I can see how it happened.
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Post by Cuddles on Apr 16, 2023 15:19:21 GMT
There's no reason to believe Harry was under the influence when he showed up to a private club with Meghan last month. Photos and video, when viewed as a group, show a healthy, happy man enjoying a night out with his wife.
This is the 21st century. Seeking help is not a weakness, it is a strength. I applaud Harry for being open about working with a therapist so he could start feeling again.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Apr 16, 2023 17:10:40 GMT
It's not illegal to pull down your pants and play with your thing in public. It's not illegal to defecate in front of a supermarket. I agree that not all out-of-control homeless are substance abusers, but the overwhelming majority are. It's gross. It is also gross to see Prince Harry looped when recently exiting a car to enter the private club with Meghan in front of the paparazzi they arranged to take their photographs ... I assume in an attempt to change the narrative after being lampooned by South Park. It's one thing to stage a diversion. It's entirely another to do it when wasted in public. I am going to assume that the beginning of this post is sarcasm I’m some from? Because those things are not legal, just ask Paul Reubens. I also disagree with the fact you state that the overwhelming majority of homelessness is because of substance-abuse. Actually, it is only about a third, or just over. In addition, it is not that they’re homeless, because they are substance abusers, but rather they are substance abusers now that they are homeless. The numbers are vastly different for women who are homeless, about 60% of them are suffering from some form of mental illness. Furthermore, the overwhelming number of military veterans that are homeless is what’s actually gross to me. I know this is not a thread to discuss this, but I did feel it necessary to point out that no it is not an overwhelming majority of people who are among the nations homeless are that way because they’re substance abusers. That is totally misinformation. As much as both Meghan and Harry irritate, and annoy me as of late I do feel that both could benefit from some type of therapy. It’s obvious that Harry has issues, he wrote a whole book about them. In looking at his wife and her family situation, I truly believe she has some deep-seated mental issues as well that she needs to work through. I don’t think I am the only one that finds it odd that the only family member she chooses to associate with is her mother. No other family, the ones we hear about in the news excluded of course, is ever talked about or alluded to. From someone who had such an amazing childhood that makes you wonder what happened. When it comes to Harry and his drug use, I believe it stems from his mental and emotional state growing up the way he did, and losing his mother, so young, and the way he did as well. I’m not condoning the use, but I can see how it happened. THANK YOU FireWoman!!!
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Post by amber on Apr 16, 2023 20:44:52 GMT
Do you live in the San Francisco Bay Area, because I do. There is no sarcasm in what I said. It's that bad. Not every neighborhood, not every jurisdiction, but more than anyone rational expects.
I live up a hill, so I don't see it in front of my house, but if I drive a mile or two this way or that, I see it. I also no longer shop in certain neighborhood shopping districts or drive down certain streets near or in the center of town if I can avoid it. There are two restaurants I requented regularly until recently because I can't afford having my car broken into every time I dine and park nearby because it's street parking. And I am not talking about hole in the wall restaurants, I am talking fine dining. It's that bad.
We are slowly losing all of our Walgreens. Whole Foods just shut down it's one year old Market Street location. Home Depot is considering shutting stores. It's that bad.
Since covid, defunding the police, and prosecuting felonies as misdemeanors, it's worst than ever. The encampments, when they disappear, are are not going away, they're just being pushed somewhere else.
This is my reality. It truly is.
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Post by FireWoman on Apr 17, 2023 6:22:04 GMT
Do you live in the San Francisco Bay Area, because I do. There is no sarcasm in what I said. It's that bad. Not every neighborhood, not every jurisdiction, but more than anyone rational expects. I live up a hill, so I don't see it in front of my house, but if I drive a mile or two this way or that, I see it. I also no longer shop in certain neighborhood shopping districts or drive down certain streets near or in the center of town if I can avoid it. There are two restaurants I requented regularly until recently because I can't afford having my car broken into every time I dine and park nearby because it's street parking. And I am not talking about hole in the wall restaurants, I am talking fine dining. It's that bad. We are slowly losing all of our Walgreens. Whole Foods just shut down it's one year old Market Street location. Home Depot is considering shutting stores. It's that bad. Since covid, defunding the police, and prosecuting felonies as misdemeanors, it's worst than ever. The encampments, when they disappear, are are not going away, they're just being pushed somewhere else. This is my reality. It truly is. Things are rough all over, to quote Cherry Valance. This is happening all across our country, it is not because there are homeless people and it is not just one city or another. I think it is just a gross generalization to apply that stigma. Again, this is not the place to debate this so I will not belabour it. And my sarcasm comment was in respect to you saying things you cited were NOT illegal as they are absolutely illegal, thus my confusion.
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Post by amber on Apr 17, 2023 10:03:09 GMT
I'll try again to clarify for those that don't need to worry where to park a car or step over hypodermic needles and human feces. It's become very hard to live among those of the out-of-control homeless population living on sidewalks and addicted to drugs. I'm not referring to all homeless people, but those habitually ingesting fentanyl, heroin, methamphetamines, hallucinogenics, and weed.
No doubt there are laws on the books prohibiting vagrancy, shoplifting, open drug use, public defecation, fornication, and masturbation, but it doesn't appear violators are pursued and or punished.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Apr 17, 2023 13:11:26 GMT
I'll try again to clarify for those that don't need to worry where to park a car or step over hypodermic needles and human feces. It's become very hard to live among those of the out-of-control homeless population living on sidewalks and addicted to drugs. I'm not referring to all homeless people, but those habitually ingesting fentanyl, heroin, methamphetamines, hallucinogenics, and weed. No doubt there are laws on the books prohibiting vagrancy, shoplifting, open drug use, public defecation, fornication, and masturbation, but it doesn't appear violators are pursued and or punished. It does sound horrible, there and every place that this is a problem. I'm just wondering, are you doing anything to help the situation, or are you just complaining about it? Admittedly, one person alone can do little, but even on the local level, one person CAN group together with others who are also concerned about the problem! Surely there must be others who are also concerned about these issues that you can join with. And enough people working together can form a movement to make actual changes. We do have a voice. But in order to be heard, we do have to actually get involved and to persuade as many people as we can to also get involved to help make the situation better.
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Post by AZChristian on Apr 17, 2023 18:09:15 GMT
With respect . . . might we go back to discussing the British Royals?
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Post by Arielflies on Apr 17, 2023 18:10:03 GMT
Yup...we've strayed...time to hit the straight and narrow.
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Post by amber on Apr 17, 2023 19:45:16 GMT
You're right. I was talking about Harry's advocating and participating in habitual drug use. I wish he and his team would move elsewhere, for we have enough to deal with in California without him. If he cleaned up and celebrated his sobriety, that would be something I might get behind.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Apr 18, 2023 1:22:49 GMT
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