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Post by cavendish on Aug 31, 2022 5:51:21 GMT
Miguel is either completely ignorant about the womens rights movement or he’s been playing too much dungeons and dragons. (And he considers this an “intellectual” pastime??? ). How does he not know that the decision to change your name is a huge and (should be). A personal freely made decision. Pressuring someone —especially someone you hardly know — to do this is imo very disrespectful and inappropriate. I hope lindy refuses to do that unless she really wants to, and certainly not as part of a bargain where she gets onto his insurance. The idea that a spouse wouldn’t put their uninsured spouse on their insurance is pretty absurd and doing so is in no way comparable to what he’s asking.
That would be a deal-breaker for me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2022 6:09:08 GMT
Miguel is either completely ignorant about the womens rights movement or he’s been playing too much dungeons and dragons. (And he considers this an “intellectual” pastime??? ). How does he not know that the decision to change your name is a huge and (should be). A personal freely made decision. Pressuring someone —especially someone you hardly know — to do this is imo very disrespectful and inappropriate. I hope lindy refuses to do that unless she really wants to, and certainly not as part of a bargain where she gets onto his insurance. The idea that a spouse wouldn’t put their uninsured spouse on their insurance is pretty absurd and doing so is in no way comparable to what he’s asking. That would be a deal-breaker for me. He might be old school. But changing her name and being put on his insurance I think those two things should come after decision day.
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Post by cavendish on Aug 31, 2022 20:15:32 GMT
I completely agree —. About the convo — or at least the fight— being premature. I wouldn’t expect to be put onto someone’s insurance until the marriage question had been more settled.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Sept 1, 2022 20:06:07 GMT
Legally changing her name??? How does Miguel not realize that at this point in the season (the couples had only KNOWN each other for around 2 or 3 weeks) that it's CRAZY to expect someone to make a life altering decision so prematurely. Especially when they're clearly not madly in love. At this early time, they don't even know whether they will want to stay together or not. (And they may very well not stay together.) And, on the other side of things, to me, even asking him to put her on his insurance is a kind of big deal. Although I totally get that it could possibly save her a lot of money (if she had an expensive medical claim within the next 5 or 6 weeks), it's still pretty premature in their 'marriage' --- which might only last 5 or 6 more weeks. Then, if they don't stay together, how does Miguel even explain that to the insurance company -- when he has to take her OFF his policy!!!
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Post by nicksmom on Sept 8, 2022 15:32:46 GMT
I wish we knew what Bhin talked to Justin about….this was very confusing. Morgan didn’t even let him talk. I wonder if he even knew what he was apologizing for? She said some pretty hurtful things to him. I think he is just clueless on what to do so he talked to Justin, could be wrong but we really didn’t see much of this couple.
Alexi just wants to stir the pot I think with them. I pretty sure they all talk about each other when the girls are together. I don’t even understand what the heck happened at the table these two. He was just talking to her not the whole table until she made it that way. She sure likes the catsuits I first I thought the gloves were part of the suit odd for eating but saw she took them off to drink.
Mitch and Krystin …..she finally spoke up for herself . Keeps saying she loves being married etc though.
Nate and Stacia ….tattoos at least it wasn’t there names. Loved what her mother told her. Slow down woman it only been a month. Her face when she was told what to do for the dog lol
Miguel and Lindy ……can’t even remember what they said on the boat . Oh just remembered her saying he hasn’t seen her at her worse yet and he thought he did…lol
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Post by coco46 on Sept 10, 2022 10:56:01 GMT
I wish we knew what Bhin talked to Justin about….this was very confusing. Morgan didn’t even let him talk. I wonder if he even knew what he was apologizing for? She said some pretty hurtful things to him. I think he is just clueless on what to do so he talked to Justin, could be wrong but we really didn’t see much of this couple. Alexi just wants to stir the pot I think with them. I pretty sure they all talk about each other when the girls are together. I don’t even understand what the heck happened at the table these two. He was just talking to her not the whole table until she made it that way. She sure likes the catsuits I first I thought the gloves were part of the suit odd for eating but saw she took them off to drink. Mitch and Krystin …..she finally spoke up for herself . Keeps saying she loves being married etc though. Nate and Stacia ….tattoos at least it wasn’t there names. Loved what her mother told her. Slow down woman it only been a month. Her face when she was told what to do for the dog lol Miguel and Lindy ……can’t even remember what they said on the boat . Oh just remembered her saying he hasn’t seen her at her worse yet and he thought he did…lol Alexi and Morgan would drive me nuts. They are way too intense. I hope the rest of the couples make it. Mitch is an odd one for sure, but he has grown on me.
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Post by Critical on Sept 11, 2022 22:33:43 GMT
I really can't blame Morgan for being mad. She literally asked him to not talk about their issues with the others. If it got to the point that Alexis felt she needed to step in and say something means it was pretty flagrant. I don't deny his need to discuss his feelings and issues with someone else, but it should not be someone in that group. Alexis and Mitch even mentioned on the Afterparty last week that they'd all sort of made an agreement to go outside of that group to discuss their marital problems - either to a friend or therapist. Bihn clearly didn't care. He could have called one of the experts for help too.
Bihn just is not mature enough to be married. This is high school behavior. I've seen some people slamming Alexis online for "narcing" on Bihn, but IMO, she was being a good friend to Morgan. She clearly felt Bihn was out of line.
It feels like Miguel is constantly looking for faults in Lindy and keeping a list in his head. Not great.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Sept 23, 2022 23:32:56 GMT
MAFSFAN site has updated her previous spoilers. {Spoiler} Mitch and Krysten chose to divorce on Decision Day and currently are not together. The same is true for Alexis and Justin. She previously had said these 2 couples had chosen to stay together on Decision Day, but was not correct.
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Post by Critical on Sept 24, 2022 2:40:01 GMT
MAFSFAN site has updated her previous spoilers. {Spoiler} Mitch and Krysten chose to divorce on Decision Day and currently are not together. The same is true for Alexis and Justin. She previously had said these 2 couples had chosen to stay together on Decision Day, but was not correct. I saw those the other day and was NOT surprised. Frankly, after how many seasons, I'm not surprised by most Decision Day decisions any more.
There are very few times on D Day when I'm shocked at a decision. I often find it more shocking when certain couples opt to stay together and I sometimes feel like some say yes because they want to get a better edit....and then they can break up quietly off camera.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Sept 26, 2022 13:38:42 GMT
I don't mind it when a couple says yes on decision-day mainly because they want more time to see if there's a chance they can build a real relationship and truly fall in love in the real world. It's got to be really, really hard to do that in the short period of time they're given while the show is filming, and especially with cameras and tv staff in their faces almost all the time. So it's very much ok with me if their "yes" on decision-day is really a "maybe."
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Post by Critical on Sept 29, 2022 19:34:43 GMT
The only surprise tonight is that Morgan and Bihn lasted as long as they did. I don't think either of them are bad people, but they're definitely not ready for marriage. They both need some therapy.
I was SO proud of Krysten! That moment when she was like, "NO. You know what?" and just went off was glorious! He's totally clueless if he truly had no idea that was coming. It was clear the other couples knew this was brewing. The idea that he wants her to mold herself to be exactly what he wants physically is ludicrous. She's not a sex doll; she's a human being and she's beautiful. Plus, it's not as if she wears that much makeup anyway. From how he talks about her, you'd think she's Tammy Faye Bakker. It was so obvious that her sister is not in the Mitch train. She can also do much better than Mitch....or as some people on Reddit are calling him, Son of a Mitch
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Post by coco46 on Oct 5, 2022 10:42:54 GMT
Not many comments on this season. I am tired of it and ready for the next one.
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Post by Critical on Oct 6, 2022 2:48:01 GMT
I'm still watching, but I find this season, along with the last several ones, TBH, pretty tedious. There's no one this season who I'd consider a bad guy, like we've had in the past. No Alyssa, no Chris, no Matt. Still, most of them seem pretty mismatched. I think Stacia and Nate can go the distance and at times it seems like Miguel and Lindy are a good match, but then something happens to change my feelings about them. The other three couples? Total fail.
IMO, they shouldn't just have the experts show up from time to time. I think they should be meeting with a marriage counselor weekly. I bet a number of couples from past seasons would still be together if they'd had to be in therapy together from the beginning.
There's talk that Karen and Miles (New Orleans) might have split up. Apparently, they unfollowed each other on Insta and haven't posted with or about each other in some time.
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Post by Critical on Oct 6, 2022 5:38:13 GMT
OMG, Miguel is exhausting! WTF is wrong with him? Just like with Krysten and Mitch, it feels like she has to adapt to everything Miguel wants. He works her up into knots, she's crying, and he just stands there blank-faced. I don't know how you keep going in a relationship with someone like that. Marriage is work, but it shouldn't be that much work. Frankly, his behavior feels like borderline emotional abuse. Krysten's impression of Mitch
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Oct 6, 2022 23:06:24 GMT
Miguel scares me. He wants a Stepford wife... One that doesn't show any emotion or raise one's voice. I could never be married to someone like him. He seems very cold at times. I'm a person who raises my voice when I get upset. I do think that Lindy's only crime was misreading the room. She was all dressed up and excited for her prom. She felt pretty and wanted Miguel to take a nice photo of her. She didn't realize that he was too "exhausted" to get up and take a photo.
And why was he so tired anyway? He didn't drive there. None of the husbands did,, which I found odd.
Lindy is going to have to walk on eggshells around Miguel, not to upset him. Good luck with that!
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Post by Critical on Oct 7, 2022 22:30:51 GMT
Miguel scares me. He wants a Stepford wife... One that doesn't show any emotion or raise one's voice. I could never be married to someone like him. He seems very cold at times. I'm a person who raises my voice when I get upset. I do think that Lindy's only crime was misreading the room. She was all dressed up and excited for her prom. She felt pretty and wanted Miguel to take a nice photo of her. She didn't realize that he was too "exhausted" to get up and take a photo. And why was he so tired anyway? He didn't drive there. None of the husbands did,, which I found odd. Lindy is going to have to walk on eggshells around Miguel, not to upset him. Good luck with that! Agree with everything you posted. Why on earth would he think that Lindy can read his emotions after less than 2 months? Why, when she asked about the picture, could he not just have calmly said that he needed some quiet and maybe she could ask someone else to take a picture? Then, she asks someone else later to take her pic and he flips out because she didn't understand that he would have taken it for her. Sorry, but that's bs. No one is a mind reader.
The fact that he keeps talking about her yelling when she absolutely is NOT yelling is some crazy gaslighting sh!t.
The withholding of affection sets a really bad precedent. I felt so sad for her. That emotionless wall he puts up would be too much for me to deal with. LIke you said she's going to have to walk on eggshells. I couldn't live like that. If I doesn't change, I think she should be done.
Yeah, the whole thing about him being tired? Please. Time to man-up Mr. Machismo. Jeez. As much as some of these couples do talk a lot about their feelings, Miguel is terrible at communicating....and then he expects Lindy just to KNOW what he's feeling and how she should behave. I feel so sad for her. She's trying so hard to make him happy and he just takes and takes.
It feels like maybe the only wife who isn't dimming her light, so-to-speak, is Stacia. I wasn't sold on that pairing at first, but I think they're pretty well-matched.
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Post by Punkin on Oct 8, 2022 3:26:49 GMT
When will we face up to the fact that this is a total waste of time? They don't even have enough successful couples to add up to even one per season. I'm done!
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Post by Critical on Oct 8, 2022 5:28:50 GMT
When will we face up to the fact that this is a total waste of time? They don't even have enough successful couples to add up to even one per season. I'm done! That's definitely not true:
Doug and Jamie
Anthony and Ashley
Keith and Kristina Woody and Amani Jamie and Beth Jephte and Shawniece Austin and Jessica AJ and Stephanie Bobby and Danielle Greg and Deonna Vincent and Briana Olajuwon and Katina
and, hopefully, Miles and Karen
That's WAY more than one season's worth of couples. Compare that to the Bach franchise. ONE Bachelor is with his final pick (I'm not counting the ones who went back afterwards and chose someone else) and I think five Bachelorettes, including Gabby, are still with their final pick. That's out of 19 Bachelorette seasons and 26 Bachelor seasons. I'd say MAFS is doing pretty well by comparison.
As frustrated as I get with this show, they really do have what seems to be some solid marriages - at least for reality shows - and quite a few MAFS babies. The reality (ha!) is that reality TV is not an ideal place to find a life partner. This show gets it wrong a lot, but it also does get it right - it's done that at least a dozen times!
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Post by Punkin on Oct 8, 2022 23:53:36 GMT
Not to be persnickety, but they are on Season 15 of MAFS. It's probably just me, but these people go into this "experiment" with hopes and dreams for their futures, and some are very poorly matched by these so-called experts. I really feel for those who have to walk away in 'failure' through no real fault of their own. I've never seen the Batchelor/ette series, but I don't know how many are there looking for real love rather than for drama and reality stardom. If I want to see a bunch of hilariously unmitigated relationship disasters, there's always Love After Lockup on Friday nights! They all get what they signed up for. The cons are cons, and the marks are marks.
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Post by Critical on Oct 9, 2022 0:59:21 GMT
They recruit people for this show on social media, so in that way, it's not different from the Bach franchise. Maybe in the beginning, most people applied, but MANY contestants have talked about being recruited by various staffers from the show. I'd argue that many of those people didn't go on the show to get married either. There are still people who apply to be on the show, but I'd hazard a guess that maybe half who make it on the show now didn't apply. I remember that on the DC season, Jessica and Mindy and maybe Austin were the only ones who said they applied.
Considering the divorce rate of people who meet and date and go through the "normal" process to get married, I think this show is doing pretty well.
I've long said that they should be providing these couples with more than occasional counseling. Jamie (S1) said that they definitely would have gotten divorced without the experts - that was when they were much more hands on. I think we'd have several more couples in the "win" column if they got more marriage counseling.
I don't think we can blame the experts for everything. As we've seen MANY of these people have lied about who they are or what they want...or they go into it not even knowing what they want. As far back as season one, that has happened. Monet wanted a traditional man, but then bristled because he expected her to cook and clean and be, well, a traditional wife. She asked for something not understanding what she was asking for. We see it all the time. Also, I think many of them put up a facade to get he experts to pick them and then, once they're married, we see they're not really like that at all.
They're never going to have a 100% success rate or even 50%. These are human beings and, regardless of how many surveys you fill out and how much you tell someone about what you're looking for, the "perfect" person can still not be the right one for you. While I'd like to see more successful marriages, I'd be happy with even one per season.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Oct 9, 2022 1:20:12 GMT
OMG, Miguel is exhausting! WTF is wrong with him? Just like with Krysten and Mitch, it feels like she has to adapt to everything Miguel wants. He works her up into knots, she's crying, and he just stands there blank-faced. I don't know how you keep going in a relationship with someone like that. Marriage is work, but it shouldn't be that much work. Frankly, his behavior feels like borderline emotional abuse. Krysten's impression of Mitch OMG, Miguel IS exhausting!!! This dude seriously needs some anger management --- or maybe we should call it "bad mood management"!!! Thank heavens for Nate and Stacia who were so cute this episode! And Krysten's imitation of Mitch was totally !
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Oct 16, 2022 23:14:31 GMT
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Post by Critical on Oct 17, 2022 5:38:48 GMT
So happy for Jon and Jessica! They really seem like a forever love (I hope I didn't just jinx them!).
Amazing that Shawniece and Jephte celebrated their 5th anniversary this summer! There was a time when it didn't seem like they'd make it, but they seem pretty solid now. So happy for them and for Laura.
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Post by Critical on Oct 18, 2022 6:37:42 GMT
MAFSFan posted a reel with a photo spoiler of Alexis, Stacia and Lindy at Alexis' birthday party last weekend and {Spoiler} Lindy is not wearing a wedding ring. If she's left Miguel, I'm really happy for her. She deserves better.
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Post by rockytopchick on Oct 19, 2022 17:44:53 GMT
When will we face up to the fact that this is a total waste of time? They don't even have enough successful couples to add up to even one per season. I'm done! That's definitely not true:
Doug and Jamie
Anthony and Ashley
Keith and Kristina Woody and Amani Jamie and Beth Jephte and Shawniece Austin and Jessica AJ and Stephanie Bobby and Danielle Greg and Deonna Vincent and Briana Olajuwon and Katina
and, hopefully, Miles and Karen
That's WAY more than one season's worth of couples. Compare that to the Bach franchise. ONE Bachelor is with his final pick (I'm not counting the ones who went back afterwards and chose someone else) and I think five Bachelorettes, including Gabby, are still with their final pick. That's out of 19 Bachelorette seasons and 26 Bachelor seasons. I'd say MAFS is doing pretty well by comparison.
As frustrated as I get with this show, they really do have what seems to be some solid marriages - at least for reality shows - and quite a few MAFS babies. The reality (ha!) is that reality TV is not an ideal place to find a life partner. This show gets it wrong a lot, but it also does get it right - it's done that at least a dozen times!
Bennett and Amelia? Are they over? I missed that and if they are it makes me sad
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Oct 19, 2022 17:47:45 GMT
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Post by Critical on Oct 19, 2022 22:58:13 GMT
IIRC, in Bennett's words, she dumped him out of the blue
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Post by rockytopchick on Oct 22, 2022 22:09:53 GMT
OMG I am so sad about that. They seemed so perfect together!
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Post by Critical on Oct 23, 2022 5:14:06 GMT
OMG I am so sad about that. They seemed so perfect together! I think it was a BIG red flag that she went on the show because she thought it would be fun to be on a reality TV show before she went to do her residency. I also think she enjoyed their quirky relationship until she got into her residency and was surrounded by others who were driven in their careers. Maybe she realized she could have someone that was both serious about a career and quirky too and Bennett's eccentricities became less charming. She seems to have moved on to another guy, based on the pics on her IG. I think Bennett is a really special person, but he's obviously not everyone's cup of tea. I hope he'll find a woman who's a better fit for him and who appreciates all of him.
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Post by justCoz on Oct 23, 2022 14:54:28 GMT
OMG I am so sad about that. They seemed so perfect together! I think it was a BIG red flag that she went on the show because she thought it would be fun to be on a reality TV show before she went to do her residency. I also think she enjoyed their quirky relationship until she got into her residency and was surrounded by others who were driven in their careers. Maybe she realized she could have someone that was both serious about a career and quirky too and Bennett's eccentricities became less charming. She seems to have moved on to another guy, based on the pics on her IG. I think Bennett is a really special person, but he's obviously not everyone's cup of tea. I hope he'll find a woman who's a better fit for him and who appreciates all of him. Agreed. I think she was surprised when he really wanted a marriage and it wasn't just a fun thing to do. I always feel bad for those that go on the show wanting a marriage but end up paired with someone who thought it would be a great way to get on TV... It's hard enough when they're mismatched in other ways. Occasionally I've wondered if a few of the couples they really thought would be a good match or just matched them to have a show.
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