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Post by amber on Jan 4, 2023 17:04:38 GMT
Harry and Meghan recognize, like the images of ther children, the family stories are a commodity - their commodity to sell. I get it, in that what else will bring in the hundreds of millions that they think they're worth?
That's just my opinion from a shallow point of view and probably most people's opinion, in the UK and even here.
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Post by FannyMare on Jan 4, 2023 18:14:48 GMT
Harry and Meghan recognize, like the images of ther children, the family stories are a commodity - their commodity to sell. I get it, in that what else will bring in the hundreds of millions that they think they're worth? That's just my opinion from a shallow point of view and probably most people's opinion, in the UK and even here. You are probable right, I;d wish them luck, but I wouldnt mean it. Karma baby, karma
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Post by FireWoman on Jan 4, 2023 22:15:49 GMT
Harry and Meghan recognize, like the images of ther children, the family stories are a commodity - their commodity to sell. I get it, in that what else will bring in the hundreds of millions that they think they're worth? That's just my opinion from a shallow point of view and probably most people's opinion, in the UK and even here. It may be their commodity to sell.. just like mine are too. But, much like mine, would anyone be even remotely interested in buying anything they are selling if they were not the Duke and Duchess of Sussex or any other titled royal. Meghan may have been an actress but she was not that big of a deal.. marry a prince and that changes. I guess my point, or opinion, is that if not for having this title to trade on would they be able to command the attention they still think they can? Are some interested in it still.. sure.. but I think (I know I am one) that more and more are becoming less and less willing to give that attention. You can only peddle the same crap for so long.. ture or not.. till they stop buying it.
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Post by nennie on Jan 4, 2023 22:35:22 GMT
Harry and Meghan recognize, like the images of ther children, the family stories are a commodity - their commodity to sell. I get it, in that what else will bring in the hundreds of millions that they think they're worth? That's just my opinion from a shallow point of view and probably most people's opinion, in the UK and even here. It may be their commodity to sell.. just like mine are too. But, much like mine, would anyone be even remotely interested in buying anything they are selling if they were not the Duke and Duchess of Sussex or any other titled royal. Meghan may have been an actress but she was not that big of a deal.. marry a prince and that changes. I guess my point, or opinion, is that if not for having this title to trade on would they be able to command the attention they still think they can? Are some interested in it still.. sure.. but I think (I know I am one) that more and more are becoming less and less willing to give that attention. You can only peddle the same crap for so long.. ture or not.. till they stop buying it. I don't even click on any links to read anything about them anymore. They are passe to me. They never held my interest. Now give me some Louis and his cute little face then I will be interested. His a stinker I am sure but he is so adorable. His little antics are cute, may not be when he gets older but they are now.
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Post by Cuddles on Jan 5, 2023 1:31:59 GMT
What lies? I’ve heard smack about how they got married beforehand but it wasn’t legal so that’s supposedly a lie but it isn’t a lie if in their hearts that’s when they exchanged their real vows and felt they were married. And that’s just one example. I think if someone wants to look for a supposed lie they could find one from all of us just by tearing apart our words/ways of phrasing our comments. We have politicians who aren’t called liars but make up everything that comes out of their mouths, but Harry and Meghan can’t even voice when they felt their marriage began! And brother William and father Charles can connive and act as though they’re too above things to comment, lol. I believe Harry and Meghan too. The Royals have lied and withheld the truth so frequently, for years on end. That's their policy and it surely hasn't changed recently. So, with their credibility so low, I think the chances are they've lied about Harry and Meghan as well. Isn't it just so obvious what is going on? Here you've got these hoity-toity people smugly sitting back and letting their press craft a fictitious storyline while they pretend to be too holier-than-thou to comment. Please. And you know why? Because the truth is ugly. Because the only way to squash the truth is to discredit Harry (and Meghan).
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Post by Kao on Jan 5, 2023 6:59:42 GMT
Mess. How you gonna fight your own brother in his house?
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Post by FannyMare on Jan 5, 2023 10:14:51 GMT
Brothers fighting, how new.
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Jan 5, 2023 13:24:59 GMT
Here we go again. It's just another tiff to bring up..3 years later. Let it go now, Harry. Move on.
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Post by Cuddles on Jan 5, 2023 17:40:24 GMT
Sir William was being an @ss talking smack about his brother's wife. And after cutting up his back he asked Harry to forget it every happened. Yeah, let's just keep this between us. Sounds like a great brother. A real prize. I know the type.
Funny thing about all of this - Harry was always supportive of Kate, e.g. he wasn't having it when she was filmed sunbathing in the nude, but William, on the other hand, has done ZILCH to support Meghan.
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Post by ccl on Jan 5, 2023 18:46:59 GMT
If this (the fight)happened as he (Harry) says, William is totally wrong. But as he (Harry) has been so inconsistent in so many of his stories, I don’t know that I can totally believe that what he said is exactly what happened. Like, for this incident, for example, he (Harry) says he spoke to his therapist after it happened and yet earlier he and Meghan said she wasn’t allowed to see a therapist when she was having mental health issues. So how is it that Harry was able to get help for mental health issues, and did, and she wasn’t? That doesn’t make sense. Also the whole nazi costume incident…earlier he was contrite and said he tried to make amends afterward. Fine, people make mistakes, and he took ownership which is good. . Now suddenly it is William’s fault because he (Harry) asked him if he should wear it and William said yes (seemingly so as to put Harry in a bad light). So now it is not his (Harry’s) fault? And yet he was the one who actually had a nazi costume in the first place and was the one to actually put it on. All of this seems to show that Harry is very embittered about being a second son. Most families have issues with siblings being treated differently but to make that your whole personality and focus apparently…I don’t think that is good for anyone. I think it would be best if he refocused on more positive things like his Invictus work. He claims he wants his father and brother back but I don’t see how that can happen after this book and the interviews he’s done.
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Post by Cuddles on Jan 5, 2023 19:00:05 GMT
Harry was a royal seeing a therapist but his wife was not supported in her endeavor to meet with one. Was it that not plausible?
As for the nazi costume, he still takes ownership of it and feels it is one of the worst mistakes he's ever made. Just because he said his brother and sister-in-law rolled in laughter at the idea of him wearing that doesn't mean he think they did it to put him in bad light. That's a stretch. But one would note that when he got lambasted for it, they said nothing. Just like Kate say nothing when she was the one who made Meghan cry and not the other way around.
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Post by ccl on Jan 5, 2023 19:15:12 GMT
Harry had (has) a therapist. He was able to get one. Noone stopped him in doing so. So the fact that Meghan apparently could not…Yes, I find it implausible.
I’m not the only one saying he is putting at least part of the blame on the nazi costume on William and Kate. Numerous articles and reports and comments have taken his written words ‘that was the point’ to infer as much. So I don’t think it’s a stretch.
Harry may have his truth but I don’t think it is THE truth.
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Post by amber on Jan 5, 2023 19:31:14 GMT
Harry was a royal seeing a therapist but his wife was not supported in her endeavor to meet with one. Was it that not plausible? As for the nazi costume, he still takes ownership of it and feels it is one of the worst mistakes he's ever made. Just because he said his brother and sister-in-law rolled in laughter at the idea of him wearing that doesn't mean he think they did it to put him in bad light. That's a stretch. But one would note that when he got lambasted for it, they said nothing. Just like Kate say nothing when she was the one who made Meghan cry and not the other way around. If one would like to believe EVERYTHING Harry and Meghan say, then sure, believe the therapy thing, too. Throw that in the heap of Meghan not inviting ANY FAMILY TO HER WEDDING other than her birth mother. No siblings, uncles, aunts, cousins, nieces, or nephews, in addition to her father, because they are all awful people, and she's not. Now that is a stretch without even attempting a deep dive.
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Post by Cuddles on Jan 5, 2023 19:39:22 GMT
Harry was a royal seeing a therapist but his wife was not supported in her endeavor to meet with one. Was it that not plausible? As for the nazi costume, he still takes ownership of it and feels it is one of the worst mistakes he's ever made. Just because he said his brother and sister-in-law rolled in laughter at the idea of him wearing that doesn't mean he think they did it to put him in bad light. That's a stretch. But one would note that when he got lambasted for it, they said nothing. Just like Kate say nothing when she was the one who made Meghan cry and not the other way around. If one would like to believe EVERYTHING Harry and Meghan say, then sure, believe the therapy thing, too. Throw that in the heap of Meghan not inviting ANY FAMILY TO HER WEDDING other than her birth mother. No siblings, uncles, aunts, cousins, nieces, or nephews, in addition to her father, because they are all awful people, and she's not. Now that is a stretch without even attempting a deep dive. I don't know your source. Read about Ashleigh Hale.
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Post by amber on Jan 5, 2023 23:40:59 GMT
If one would like to believe EVERYTHING Harry and Meghan say, then sure, believe the therapy thing, too. Throw that in the heap of Meghan not inviting ANY FAMILY TO HER WEDDING other than her birth mother. No siblings, uncles, aunts, cousins, nieces, or nephews, in addition to her father, because they are all awful people, and she's not. Now that is a stretch without even attempting a deep dive. I don't know your source. Read about Ashleigh Hale. Meghan cold heartedly uninvited her family member Ashleigh Hale. Exactly what I am talking about.
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Post by Cuddles on Jan 5, 2023 23:52:07 GMT
I don't know your source. Read about Ashleigh Hale. Meghan cold heartedly uninvited her family member Ashleigh Hale. Exactly what I am talking about. That's not what happened. Meghan was not in charge of that decision.
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Post by Cuddles on Jan 6, 2023 0:02:53 GMT
Harry had (has) a therapist. He was able to get one. Noone stopped him in doing so. So the fact that Meghan apparently could not…Yes, I find it implausible. I’m not the only one saying he is putting at least part of the blame on the nazi costume on William and Kate. Numerous articles and reports and comments have taken his written words ‘that was the point’ to infer as much. So I don’t think it’s a stretch. Harry may have his truth but I don’t think it is THE truth. Today's internet is plastered with these gotcha stories about how Harry slipped with his tongue about seeing a therapist, putting Meghan's lie out there for everyone to see. Factually Harry said a long time ago that he saw a therapist - dating back to something like 2013 or 2014. This was when he got into boxing, before or during the time he started Invictus, and at that time he credited his brother for the fact that he was going to therapy/sought help. And I also think today's internet stories/headlines about the nazi costume are all very inflammatory. His actual words make it clear that he asked them what they thought of the idea and they thought it would be a hoot. Nowhere in his words does he say he feels as though his brother set him up to put him in a bad light, no where. But again, did William every say Kate & I didn't see it as a problem when he asked us when the whole situation hit the press? Nope.
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Post by amber on Jan 6, 2023 2:17:10 GMT
Meghan cold heartedly uninvited her family member Ashleigh Hale. Exactly what I am talking about. That's not what happened. Meghan was not in charge of that decision. Says who? Seriously, it makes no sense for none of Meghan's family being included at the wedding. None. Zip. I've, too, have read about Meghan's numerous issues with her father's side of the famuly but what about her mother's side. Are they 'trashy', too?
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Post by FannyMare on Jan 6, 2023 5:55:40 GMT
That's not what happened. Meghan was not in charge of that decision. Says who? Seriously, it makes no sense for none of Meghan's family being included at the wedding. None. Zip. I've, too, have read about Meghan's numerous issues with her father's side of the famuly but what about her mother's side. Are they 'trashy', too? They can say pretty much what they want, who is going to say it's not true. Our news anchors said tonight, after reading Harrys leaks, they have boys that always squabble , and tussle. They seemed a little embarrassed..
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Post by FireWoman on Jan 6, 2023 20:56:53 GMT
Just like everything else, and anyone involved in all this mess, there are always 3 sides to every story. I have said it before and I will say it again. What everyone is telling is THEIR truth and likely not the ACTUAL truth. It is the truth as they see it or feel it happened... or in some cases how they want others to see it. I am sure there is some truth to be found on all sides of those involved. Harry is an ass, Will is an ass, Meghan can be aggressive and rude, Kate can be cold.. B F D in my opinion, im sure it is all true to some extent. Harry is just hyping for his book, he wants it to sell since they need to pay their own way now. If anyone believes all this 'truth telling' is to get the "truth" out there then you are truly naïve, it is all to make money that is the ONLY thing they have to gain by "blowing crap up."
As for Meghan's family, again in my opinion, where there is smoke there is fire. Meghan's wedding guest list included more "stars" than friends or family, that is a fact... no sources needed to confirm. If you watched the wedding on TV you saw it with your own eyes. Now that Harry has married her he is in the same boat as her, he has only her, his kids, and her mom as family... and I feel bad for him in that respect. I also feel that it is not a coincidence, and I am not one for conspiracy theories.
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Post by nennie on Jan 6, 2023 21:18:18 GMT
Just like everything else, and anyone involved in all this mess, there are always 3 sides to every story. I have said it before and I will say it again. What everyone is telling is THEIR truth and likely not the ACTUAL truth. It is the truth as they see it or feel it happened... or in some cases how they want others to see it. I am sure there is some truth to be found on all sides of those involved. Harry is an ass, Will is an ass, Meghan can be aggressive and rude, Kate can be cold.. B F D in my opinion, im sure it is all true to some extent. Harry is just hyping for his book, he wants it to sell since they need to pay their own way now. If anyone believes all this 'truth telling' is to get the ""truth" out there then you are truly naïve, it is all to make money that is the ONLY thing they have to gain by "blowing crap up." As for Meghan's family, again in my opinion, where there is smoke there is fire. Meghan's wedding guest list included more "stars" than friends or family,that is a fact... no sources needed to confirm. If you wanted the wedding on TV you saw it with your own eyes. Now that Harry has married her he is in the same boat as her, he has only her, his kids, and her mom as family... and I feel bad for him in that respect. I also feel that it is not a coincidence, and I am not one for conspiracy theories. I think you're spot on. I don't give a royal rats rear end what they do with their lives it doesn't affect me one little bit. They are not even a good tabloid read.
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Post by amber on Jan 7, 2023 4:59:36 GMT
Just like everything else, and anyone involved in all this mess, there are always 3 sides to every story. I have said it before and I will say it again. What everyone is telling is THEIR truth and likely not the ACTUAL truth. It is the truth as they see it or feel it happened... or in some cases how they want others to see it. I am sure there is some truth to be found on all sides of those involved. Harry is an ass, Will is an ass, Meghan can be aggressive and rude, Kate can be cold.. B F D in my opinion, im sure it is all true to some extent. Harry is just hyping for his book, he wants it to sell since they need to pay their own way now. If anyone believes all this 'truth telling' is to get the "truth" out there then you are truly naïve, it is all to make money that is the ONLY thing they have to gain by "blowing crap up." As for Meghan's family, again in my opinion, where there is smoke there is fire. Meghan's wedding guest list included more "stars" than friends or family, that is a fact... no sources needed to confirm. If you watched the wedding on TV you saw it with your own eyes. Now that Harry has married her he is in the same boat as her, he has only her, his kids, and her mom as family... and I feel bad for him in that respect. I also feel that it is not a coincidence, and I am not one for conspiracy theories. I never considered Harry's isolation. Sad.
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Jan 7, 2023 13:51:09 GMT
If Harry truly indeed (at one time, anyway) wanted to make amends with his brother, why would he write a book slamming him and others in the family?? Not a good way to salvage things. On the news this morning, they said he "pulled out all the stops" in this memoir, and that the two would probably never make amends now.
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Post by AZChristian on Jan 7, 2023 15:14:10 GMT
Interesting that Meghan never mentioned in the Oprah interview that part of the interaction between her and Kate before the wedding included Megan telling Kate she was probably affected by "baby brain" in discussions about Charlotte's dress. So Meghan said something personally offensive to Kate, but never admitted it during the Oprah interview. (This is from Harry's book.)
Seems to me an apology and flowers should have gone to Kate. Sounds like Kate took the high road, but Megan made it sound like "poor me."
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Post by Cuddles on Jan 7, 2023 17:08:29 GMT
So sisters-to-be can't have lighthearted girl talk without one being reprimanded? Welcome to the family, sis.
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Post by FannyMare on Jan 7, 2023 18:35:49 GMT
If Harry truly indeed (at one time, anyway) wanted to make amends with his brother, why would he write a book slamming him and others in the family?? Not a good way to salvage things. On the news this morning, they said he "pulled out all the stops" in this memoir, and that the two would probably never make amends now. I don't think he has that many stops left to pull. He got his knuckles rapped for saying how many he killed in Afghanistan, it could apparently put his family in danger.. not a very bright thing to do.
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Post by AZChristian on Jan 7, 2023 19:08:29 GMT
So sisters-to-be can't have lighthearted girl talk without one being reprimanded? Welcome to the family, sis. I think that's something that might be okay in an established relationship, but not among relatives-to-be who have not known each other very long.
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Post by Bearcata on Jan 7, 2023 20:11:59 GMT
Harry had (has) a therapist. He was able to get one. Noone stopped him in doing so. So the fact that Meghan apparently could not…Yes, I find it implausible. I’m not the only one saying he is putting at least part of the blame on the nazi costume on William and Kate. Numerous articles and reports and comments have taken his written words ‘that was the point’ to infer as much. So I don’t think it’s a stretch. Harry may have his truth but I don’t think it is THE truth. Harry got a therapist with approval from The Firm, Meghan asked The Firm for a therapist and was not allowed. Makes sense, Harry is a born royal The Firm wants to protect, Meghan married into the family and they don't care about her. BTW watched a documentary on YouTube about Prince Philip and how he married into the family. Both the British nobility and the Royal Family were very nasty to him and were just as nasty or even worse after he married Queen Elizabeth, very much on the lines that "he is not one of them", "he is uncouth and NOT a gentleman". Both Prince Philip and Queen Elizabeth are great great grandchildren of Queen Victoria, one was accepted and the other considered an outsider.
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Post by Bearcata on Jan 7, 2023 20:18:30 GMT
I think the entire break with the royal family and feud between brothers is a set up by the Royal Family. They need a fresh source of cash and what better way then to create friction between brothers, sister-in-laws, and supposedly leave the Royal Family. The R Family probably has shares in gossip rags and get a royalty for every story that gets published. They want to be relevant and talked about. They are being talked about.
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Post by amber on Jan 7, 2023 20:26:26 GMT
So sisters-to-be can't have lighthearted girl talk without one being reprimanded? Welcome to the family, sis. I think that's something that might be okay in an established relationship, but not among relatives-to-be who have not known each other very long. Meghan struggles with getting along with family ... appears to make no difference if hers or his.
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