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Post by JosephD on May 19, 2018 15:56:13 GMT
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Post by Gutmutter on May 31, 2018 15:14:01 GMT
Interesting talk about apologies today.
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Post by Cuddles on Jun 5, 2018 15:49:52 GMT
Joy did an excellent job of standing up to Gingrich. Doubtful he'll get any book sales from that appearance!
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 5, 2018 17:19:17 GMT
I enjoyed Newt, good to hear he can say the good and the bad about Trump I looked up Weissman, the lawyer he mentioned, good grief what a louse!? He's right, still nothing on Russia...oh, and Obama did everything right! LOL.( Joy and Sunshine make me laugh) ..DH might like this book, it's on order at the library...
We did hear unemployment is the lowest its been since 2000! Oh right, that's Obamas as well!..
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Post by Cuddles on Jun 7, 2018 17:16:05 GMT
Sunny put a big smile on my face today with her reaction to DT being in several "soft-core Playboy skin flicks." The whole topic confuses me, though, or I guess I should say Guiliani's comments confuse me. Isn't he barking up the wrong tree? He does know Melania has posed nude, right? So how does he quantify that? I was surprised to hear Meghan defend Stormy. Not only did she defend her, she said she found her very credible! That's a huge turnaround from accusing her of litigating in order to boost her career.
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Post by acookertv on Jun 7, 2018 17:41:32 GMT
Can't both be true? It makes sense to me that Megan would believe what Stormy Daniels has said in terms of her relationship with Trump, and also think she's exploiting it to boost her career instead of just letting things play out in court.
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 7, 2018 18:19:02 GMT
Can't both be true? It makes sense to me that Megan would believe what Stormy Daniels has said in terms of her relationship with Trump, and also think she's exploiting it to boost her career instead of just letting things play out in court. Absolutely. I see it that way Nice work by Trump and Kim K!!! www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44400441
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Post by Cuddles on Jun 7, 2018 19:35:15 GMT
I do not.
If you go back and watch the interview (April 17, 2018), you will see that Meghan drilled Stormy not on the did he or did he not have a relationship with you, but on the why are you doing this.
Stormy starts out by saying that she is tired of being threatened - that she is done being bullied - that this is not a publicity stunt - and Meghan interjects that she feels that it is indeed one, that until all of this she had never heard of her, and she asks her why was she in court the day before, and isn't she concerned about the feelings of the Trump family?
Those were Meghan's concerns/questions, so therefore, it is safe to surmise that Meghan now finds Stormy highly credible (and worth defending) after hearing the answers.
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 7, 2018 19:38:12 GMT
What happened to looking for that umm guy that threatened her. I don't call sex with a hooker a relationship.. I think she believed SD..but she didn't ( just like me) buy everything she's selling! But, each to their own.
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Post by acookertv on Jun 7, 2018 20:03:34 GMT
She's not a hooker, she's an adult film actress. I know there are some people who would argue that she's getting paid to sex, so what's the difference. But there is a difference. Stormy was well trained before her media blitz. When Megan was asking questions to challenge the validity of her story, she deflected talking about how people were coming after her, and not being a well-trained journalist, Megan followed her down that path. I think before they did that interview, they planned out what questions needed to be asked and who needed to ask them. IT would have been irresponsible to have her on the show and NOT challenge her on the validity of her story - that's just good interviewing. It does not necessarily mean that Megan didn't believe her. It could have been that she was assigned the task of asking those questions. Like Fanny said, I think there are people out there who believe that Stormy had a relationship with Trump, but also think she's exploiting the story, and that her lawyer is being overly aggressive in saying that he's going to continue until Trump is removed from office. Just because you believe a person does not mean you have to support all that person's choices.
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 7, 2018 21:46:11 GMT
I think someone who gets paid for sex, is a hooker..it's her right to do what she wants, it's mine to call her what I think she is..
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Post by Cuddles on Jun 7, 2018 22:52:34 GMT
She's not a hooker, she's an adult film actress. I know there are some people who would argue that she's getting paid to sex, so what's the difference. But there is a difference. Stormy was well trained before her media blitz. When Megan was asking questions to challenge the validity of her story, she deflected talking about how people were coming after her, and not being a well-trained journalist, Megan followed her down that path. I think before they did that interview, they planned out what questions needed to be asked and who needed to ask them. IT would have been irresponsible to have her on the show and NOT challenge her on the validity of her story - that's just good interviewing. It does not necessarily mean that Megan didn't believe her. It could have been that she was assigned the task of asking those questions. Like Fanny said, I think there are people out there who believe that Stormy had a relationship with Trump, but also think she's exploiting the story, and that her lawyer is being overly aggressive in saying that he's going to continue until Trump is removed from office. Just because you believe a person does not mean you have to support all that person's choices. acookertv, did you see the segment? Meghan never so much as hinted toward challenging the validity of her story. No one on the panel did. In fact, Meghan said "he did it, he's completely in the wrong as well" just after the 7 min mark. link
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Post by acookertv on Jun 8, 2018 2:27:12 GMT
I think someone who gets paid for sex, is a hooker..it's her right to do what she wants, it's mine to call her what I think she is.. It’s not a matter of rights or entitlement, but I think the definition of words matters. I think communication is nearly impossible if everyone is left to create their own definitions of words, so I go by the dictionary definitions. In those definitions, a hooker sells sexual acts for money. And adult film star films movies to entertain arise people, and scenes can include sex acts.
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Post by acookertv on Jun 8, 2018 2:29:06 GMT
She's not a hooker, she's an adult film actress. I know there are some people who would argue that she's getting paid to sex, so what's the difference. But there is a difference. Stormy was well trained before her media blitz. When Megan was asking questions to challenge the validity of her story, she deflected talking about how people were coming after her, and not being a well-trained journalist, Megan followed her down that path. I think before they did that interview, they planned out what questions needed to be asked and who needed to ask them. IT would have been irresponsible to have her on the show and NOT challenge her on the validity of her story - that's just good interviewing. It does not necessarily mean that Megan didn't believe her. It could have been that she was assigned the task of asking those questions. Like Fanny said, I think there are people out there who believe that Stormy had a relationship with Trump, but also think she's exploiting the story, and that her lawyer is being overly aggressive in saying that he's going to continue until Trump is removed from office. Just because you believe a person does not mean you have to support all that person's choices. acookertv, did you see the segment? Meghan never so much as hinted toward challenging the validity of her story. No one on the panel did. In fact, Meghan said "he did it, he's completely in the wrong as well" just after the 7 min mark. linkYes, I saw it. As a rule of thumb, on the occasion I comment on this show without watching it, I make a point of stating I didn’t see a particular segment.
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 8, 2018 4:02:35 GMT
I think someone who gets paid for sex, is a hooker..it's her right to do what she wants, it's mine to call her what I think she is.. It’s not a matter of rights or entitlement, but I think the definition of words matters. I think communication is nearly impossible if everyone is left to create their own definitions of words, so I go by the dictionary definitions. In those definitions, a hooker sells sexual acts for money. And adult film star films movies to entertain arise people, and scenes can include sex acts. SD isn't a big deal in my life, passing I say hooker..okay? I'm not alone in calling her this, just sayin..
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Post by Arielflies on Jun 8, 2018 5:33:02 GMT
Why does everyone on TV say Stormy had an "affair" with Trump? An affair assumes an ongoing relationship like he had with the playboy bunny. What he and Stormy had was a one-night stand - NOT an affair.
Meghan was responding in response to the me-too segment in which they showed Giulani spouting vile words to an Israeli journalist. Her saying Stormy had credibility and he didn't pushed the point that he is a pig.
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Post by acookertv on Jun 8, 2018 9:57:36 GMT
It’s not a matter of rights or entitlement, but I think the definition of words matters. I think communication is nearly impossible if everyone is left to create their own definitions of words, so I go by the dictionary definitions. In those definitions, a hooker sells sexual acts for money. And adult film star films movies to entertain arise people, and scenes can include sex acts. SD isn't a big deal in my life, passing I say hooker..okay? I'm not alone in calling her this, just sayin.. I know you're not alone ... and I'm not alone in seeing in as an unfortunate way to demean and shame a woman in an unnecessary way. Why does everyone on TV say Stormy had an "affair" with Trump? An affair assumes an ongoing relationship like he had with the playboy bunny. What he and Stormy had was a one-night stand - NOT an affair. Meghan was responding in response to the me-too segment in which they showed Giulani spouting vile words to an Israeli journalist. Her saying Stormy had credibility and he didn't pushed the point that he is a pig. You make a very fair point about affair vs one night stand. I think that people describe it as an affair for a few reasons. First, until Story did the 60 Minutes interview, people were operating from the misconception that it was an affair. Second, since Stormy indicated that Trump wanted to be with her other times and she denied him, his pursuit is acknowledged with improper use of the word affair. And third, it may be that associating her with an affair seems a little less scandalous and cheap and shows her a slight bit of respect - even though she makes it clear that she doesn't see anything wrong with a one night stand, and if she's game it's not that big of a deal.
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 8, 2018 11:27:49 GMT
It was never an affair, no matter what she says.
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Post by Cuddles on Jun 8, 2018 12:18:16 GMT
acookertv, did you see the segment? Meghan never so much as hinted toward challenging the validity of her story. No one on the panel did. In fact, Meghan said "he did it, he's completely in the wrong as well" just after the 7 min mark. linkYes, I saw it. As a rule of thumb, on the occasion I comment on this show without watching it, I make a point of stating I didn’t see a particular segment. Well then by all means, please tell me where in that clip Meghan asked questions to challenge the validity of her story!
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Jun 8, 2018 12:30:12 GMT
It was never an affair, no matter what she says. I never read it was an "affair", either.
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Post by acookertv on Jun 8, 2018 12:37:20 GMT
Yes, I saw it. As a rule of thumb, on the occasion I comment on this show without watching it, I make a point of stating I didn’t see a particular segment. Well then by all means, please tell me where in that clip Meghan asked questions to challenge the validity of her story! I'm sorry, but I"m not interested in playing. I accept that there are times that we watch the same thing and walk away with different interpretations. To me, it's not a matter of being right or wrong - it's a matter of opinion. I fully accept that you and I are two people who watch the same show and form very different opinions on it. If you don't accept that, there's nothing I can do about it, but I'm also not going to enter into court room level litigation to prove or disprove an opinion. I apologize if I'm being rude of dismissive in saying that. This week, the world lost two people who I admired and was inspired by to suicide. I've had an hour to process one of those, and right now I"m feeling like there are A LOT of things in this world that matter more than everything thinking the same way. So please ... just let me see the world differently than you do.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Jun 8, 2018 13:41:22 GMT
What happened to looking for that umm guy that threatened her. I don't call sex with a hooker a relationship.. I think she believed SD..but she didn't ( just like me) buy everything she's selling! But, each to their own. Let's remember the FACTS and what this is really ABOUT: This is NOT just a claim that Stormy had sex or a romantic relationship with DT. It's about Stormy, a PORN STAR, being paid $130,000 in 2016, ONE MONTH BEFORE the PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION -- to SILENCE her to AVOID A SCANDAL which could JEOPARDIZE TRUMP's ELECTION. If you go back to the original interviews and news articles, Stormy never claimed she had a 'romantic' relationship with DT. She openly stated that she met him at a golf tournament in 2006, he was married to Melania, and he had sex with Stormy -- a porn star -- for a brief period of time. BUT the REAL ISSUE is that years later, in 2016, JUST ONE MONTH BEFORE THE ELECTION, Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, paid Stormy $130,000 to keep her quiet about the sex with DT. And the main issue is whether that transaction amounted to an illegal contribution to Trump’s presidential campaign. Stormy, who signed a secrecy agreement at the time of the payout, is suing for the right to speak freely about the relationship that they began that weekend. So, Stormy is NOT just claiming she had an affair with married DT. She is claiming that years later, ONE MONTH BEFORE the ELECTION she was paid $130,000 by his lawyer, Michael Cohen to KEEP SILENT about DT having had sex with a PORN STAR, so as to NOT let that scandal JEOPARDIZE DT's chances of winning the ELECTION.
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Post by Arielflies on Jun 8, 2018 13:44:38 GMT
Yes, back to the start. Things get so blown up over time. Was it hush money that was paid because of the campaign? That is the question.
Oh, Dear...I'm sure someone on The View at least mentioned this, but I'm helping to push us off topic.
Let's all take a deep breath and go back to the show.
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Post by phartblossom on Jun 8, 2018 13:54:42 GMT
A porn star is having sex for money, the only difference I see is it is being filmed.
A one night stand does not a relationship make.
As far as the View? Used to love it....Whoopie cracks me up but it has become so hateful it gets me n a bad mood to listen to it.
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Post by acookertv on Jun 8, 2018 14:01:44 GMT
This week, I feel like the discussions they've had onthat show have been more productive and more give and take. I'm not sure what the change has been, but it feels like they are listening to each other more, and respecting their points of view better. When Joy makes cheap shots, Megan is not reacting to each one. And I also think that Sara has come through with some insights that have been pretty wise and worth hearing. I liked the distinctions she was making brides focusing on the wedding day vs the marriage when they were talking about Bridezillas yesterday. And I liked the way she gave Megan assurances that she'd been focused on what mattered.
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 8, 2018 14:26:32 GMT
A porn star is having sex for money, the only difference I see is it is being filmed. A one night stand does not a relationship make. As far as the View? Used to love it....Whoopie cracks me up but it has become so hateful it gets me n a bad mood to listen to it. I try and ignore Whoopi, Joy is kind of twisted in her hatred, but Sara is okay..I find Meghan to be quite intelligent, its her delivery that's not always good... They aren't focusing on President Trump as much as they did, because they keep saying the same thing...
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Jun 8, 2018 14:38:23 GMT
I feel Joy and Whoopi go on mostly opinions, and not facts. They allow their emotions to take over...Whoopi yells, and Joy gets heated. Meghan's delivery isn't always appropriate. I find most of her comments to be valid all the same.
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Post by acookertv on Jun 8, 2018 14:46:26 GMT
I feel Joy and Whoopi go on mostly opinions, and not facts. They allow their emotions to take over...Whoopi yells, and Joy gets heated. Meghan's delivery isn't always appropriate. I find most of her comments to be valid all the same. I think that in general,those things can be true. However this week, I've noticed a marked change in the way they are all talking. Joy has been reciting a few more prepared facts rather than prepared jokes. Whoopi has been more calm on the topics she's passionate about. Megan has also been more calm, listening more and when she has a lot to say, she says it up front so that she doesn't get upset over people responding to her first point. It's been enough of a change that I"m wondering if they have not had production meetings about adjusting things so the show isn't written off as a bunch of shrieking.
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Post by Cuddles on Jun 8, 2018 14:49:46 GMT
Well then by all means, please tell me where in that clip Meghan asked questions to challenge the validity of her story! I'm sorry, but I"m not interested in playing. I accept that there are times that we watch the same thing and walk away with different interpretations. To me, it's not a matter of being right or wrong - it's a matter of opinion. I fully accept that you and I are two people who watch the same show and form very different opinions on it. If you don't accept that, there's nothing I can do about it, but I'm also not going to enter into court room level litigation to prove or disprove an opinion. I apologize if I'm being rude of dismissive in saying that. This week, the world lost two people who I admired and was inspired by to suicide. I've had an hour to process one of those, and right now I"m feeling like there are A LOT of things in this world that matter more than everything thinking the same way. So please ... just let me see the world differently than you do. I agree with Arielflies about taking a collective breath and to Imperfect1 about sticking to the facts. The fact is is that the questions you say were asked, and then deflected from, were not. That is not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact, and that fact fully supports my original point. I stuck with the rules of our forum: I only spoke about Meghan's April interview with Stormy and her seemingly differing comments during a Hot Topics segment this week. And, as our forum suggests we do, I gave a link to support my point. For you to attempt to bash my kindness - my moral character - and to tell me that I am playing because I asked you to pinpoint for me support of your point, is just unequivocally wrong. *HUGE BREATH*
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 8, 2018 14:59:42 GMT
I feel Joy and Whoopi go on mostly opinions, and not facts. They allow their emotions to take over...Whoopi yells, and Joy gets heated. Meghan's delivery isn't always appropriate. I find most of her comments to be valid all the same. I think that in general,those things can be true. However this week, I've noticed a marked change in the way they are all talking. Joy has been reciting a few more prepared facts rather than prepared jokes. Whoopi has been more calm on the topics she's passionate about. Megan has also been more calm, listening more and when she has a lot to say, she says it up front so that she doesn't get upset over people responding to her first point. It's been enough of a change that I"m wondering if they have not had production meetings about adjusting things so the show isn't written off as a bunch of shrieking. Something has been said, to all of them..
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