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Post by angelic_one2002 on Jun 8, 2018 18:03:03 GMT
I think so too, Fanny. It's about time.
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 8, 2018 18:22:52 GMT
I think so too, Fanny. It's about time. They all needed to tone it down...
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Post by Cuddles on Jun 9, 2018 23:22:45 GMT
I think so too, Fanny. It's about time. They all needed to tone it down... The hosts believe in the 5-on-1 interview format and take pride in pushing newsmakers hard, trying to elicit interesting information that might otherwise be purely self-promotional. This season, the show is up over the same period last year in ratings, averaging 2.9 million total viewers a morning. "People know what they're coming to here," said Whoopi Goldberg, along with Behar one of the elder stateswomen of the group. "We try to be as respectful as we can, but people know this is not a place you can sort of skate through." "I take pride in that, the fact that this is not a safe space for anyone," said McCain. link
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 10, 2018 4:14:12 GMT
They all needed to tone it down... The hosts believe in the 5-on-1 interview format and take pride in pushing newsmakers hard, trying to elicit interesting information that might otherwise be purely self-promotional. This season, the show is up over the same period last year in ratings, averaging 2.9 million total viewers a morning. "People know what they're coming to here," said Whoopi Goldberg, along with Behar one of the elder stateswomen of the group. "We try to be as respectful as we can, but people know this is not a place you can sort of skate through." "I take pride in that, the fact that this is not a safe space for anyone," said McCain. linkMeghan is a draw, like her or not. She is prepared with facts and she comes from a political background..
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Post by AlwaysVeg on Jun 10, 2018 20:36:18 GMT
They're all prepared with facts by the researchers on the show. That's why they have all those cards in front of them, plus they have hot topics meetings before the show goes on air so they know who is going to say what, and in addition they're being told in their ears what to say. The only panel member who probably ignores most of that and does her own thing is Whoopi. I doubt if anyone behind the scenes even tries to control her much.
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 10, 2018 22:52:30 GMT
I just think Meghan knows more than Joy, who, outside hating the president, has very little to add..
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Post by Cuddles on Jun 11, 2018 0:57:00 GMT
Meghan has a bachelor's degree in Art History. Joy has a bachelor's degree in Sociology and a master's degree in English ed.
Although Meghan has grown up with a dad who is a senator, she has a mind of her own with views and values which are quite diverse. Many a commentator has criticized her - some have lambasted her. She truly is a maverick.
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 11, 2018 4:09:29 GMT
That's what I like about her, a maverick!..
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Post by acookertv on Jun 11, 2018 9:51:00 GMT
I don't think that Megan brings the level of political wonkiness to the show that someone like Nicole Wallace did. However, with the experiences she has had with her dad and campaigning for her dad, she brings a level of knowledge to how campaigns work that the other women do not have. There's so much they discuss that comes from a place of "why would it be that way". Megan has such a network of friends and family who have been there and done that with politics that she's able to answer the "Why would it be that way" questions in politics in an insightful way. For example when they were talking about Ivanka Trump posting a picture with her son at the height of discussion about children if detained immigrants being lost in the system, Megan could talk about how advisors would think about the optics because she's been in those discussions. I see her value there just like when they are doing stories of comedians stepping into hot water with things they say, Whoopi and Joy can talk about joke writing in a way the others can't.
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Post by Cuddles on Jun 11, 2018 16:48:04 GMT
I've never exhibited Nicolle having any political wonkiness; she's always struck me as very centered and well informed re politics. Meghan strikes me as nothing more than a maverick, often taking a view just because it's an opposing view. I find it can be very uncomfortable to be around a maverick. Just when you think you've found common ground with them, they turn, and you can never rely on them to have your back.
Meghan talks a lot about fierce loyalty but the only loyalty I ever see coming from her is to herself.
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 11, 2018 17:39:05 GMT
I think Meg is loyal to many things, including gay rights!
Damn those deals, more Christopher Plummer please!
Less view ya damn deal!
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Post by acookertv on Jun 11, 2018 17:41:35 GMT
I've never exhibited Nicolle having any political wonkiness; she's always struck me as very centered and well informed re politics. Meghan strikes me as nothing more than a maverick, often taking a view just because it's an opposing view. I find it can be very uncomfortable to be around a maverick. Just when you think you've found common ground with them, they turn, and you can never rely on them to have your back. Meghan talks a lot about fierce loyalty but the only loyalty I ever see coming from her is to herself. Being well informed in politics is exactly what I meant in saying Nicole brought a political wonkiness. Nicole is not really in the center ideologically. She's quite conservative, but that didn't always come across on the show because she's so tuned into the details of political policy that she understands the other side very well, and can verbalize that too. So while with a person like Joy or Elizaabeth Hasselbeck come from a place of believing what they do and finding differing points of view a thread, someone like Nicole values understanding opposing points of view in order to better debate and get things done. I don't see Megan as someone who simply takes an opposing view for the point of being a maverick. I think she has very firm and solid views, and on most issues has looked at varying points of view and determined what hers are. On some issues, such as abortion and gun control, she's very much in line with Republican points of view. On other issues, she differs. If she were always just taking the counter point for the purpose of being a contrarian, I don't think she'd be so solid in expressing her views.
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Jun 11, 2018 19:57:33 GMT
I see Meghan as just holding her conservative views very highly, and truly believing that view with loyalty.
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Post by Cuddles on Jun 11, 2018 21:39:38 GMT
Some of her views are conservative but others are not. I found this old article helpful. link Another article from 2016 states that she describes herself as a Republican who is liberal on social issues and that she voted for John Kerry in 2004. Interestingly enough, at the end of that link where they quote Meghan, I still see that Meghan today. McCain: Yeah, I wasn’t born yet, so I don’t know. Such a perfect example. She's very forthright that she doesn't have a law degree so she readily accepts Sunny's take on things, but when it comes to past history, she seems to want to avoid it altogether. That's when Joy and Whoopi come in to balance things out, thankfully.
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 11, 2018 22:07:41 GMT
I see Meghan as just holding her conservative views very highly, and truly believing that view with loyalty. Yes, me too. I am not all one side, and none of the other. I'm a fiscal conservative, but I'm pro choice, pro gay marriage, a lot of things that some of my party are not. Mostly they are the minority in my party though.. I like that Meghan makes up her own mind.. I see Joy as being allllll one side, that's too bad, it narrows your take on things imho
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Post by MissGriss on Jun 12, 2018 18:28:24 GMT
I've never exhibited Nicolle having any political wonkiness; she's always struck me as very centered and well informed re politics. Meghan strikes me as nothing more than a maverick, often taking a view just because it's an opposing view. I find it can be very uncomfortable to be around a maverick. Just when you think you've found common ground with them, they turn, and you can never rely on them to have your back. Meghan talks a lot about fierce loyalty but the only loyalty I ever see coming from her is to herself. Being well informed in politics is exactly what I meant in saying Nicole brought a political wonkiness. Nicole is not really in the center ideologically. She's quite conservative, but that didn't always come across on the show because she's so tuned into the details of political policy that she understands the other side very well, and can verbalize that too. So while with a person like Joy or Elizabeth Hasselbeck come from a place of believing what they do and finding differing points of view a thread, someone like Nicole values understanding opposing points of view in order to better debate and get things done. I don't see Megan as someone who simply takes an opposing view for the point of being a maverick. I think she has very firm and solid views, and on most issues has looked at varying points of view and determined what hers are. On some issues, such as abortion and gun control, she's very much in line with Republican points of view. On other issues, she differs. If she were always just taking the counter point for the purpose of being a contrarian, I don't think she'd be so solid in expressing her views. Yeah. I assumed you were using the term "wonkiness" as a compliment coming from the term "policy wonk" that came from the Clinton White House where they used that term to describe the nerdy folks who were deep into the details of policy and legislation and really knew their stuff.
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Post by Arielflies on Jun 12, 2018 21:06:34 GMT
Poor Joy. She now has avocado hand due to a misstep removing the nut with a knife. Lesson for all.
I was verklempt during the section with the small town Houston area woman gathering up the children after school; feeding them, clothing them, providing an uplift for them. Good job Whoopie for making all those good things happen for that center.
I read on Facebook that the elementary school in the small town where I grew up will be providing lunches for children and teens who do not have an adequate diet at home. It is supplied by the county. That also brought tears to my eyes,
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Post by acookertv on Jun 12, 2018 21:12:31 GMT
I'm glad that social media has served as a conduit for helping so many people realize what happens with kids who depend on things at school like the school lunch program, and the void created when school is out. It's given rise to a lot of great programs to take care of those needs and it's great to see. It touches me the way that Whoopi can get so emotionally tied in with people like that who are caring for others - especially kids. She showed that as well yesterday when they were talking about the Marjorie Stillman Douglas drama teacher who was honored at the tonys for saving 60 kids. YOu can tell when she gets choked up, she's not just giving lip service to these stories - she's invested.
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Post by Gutmutter on Jun 13, 2018 15:22:16 GMT
I love Whoopie and it was nice that RR made them guacamole, but talking with your mouth full is rude.
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Post by annifran on Jun 13, 2018 15:34:52 GMT
There's a website, Donors Choose, donorschoose.org, where one can contribute money to schools who have requested books and supplies. I occasionally contribute to my old elementary school where I grew up. They are so appreciative of the donations and the kids write lovely thank you notes or letters to the donor. Kudos to Whoopi for the segment in Texas shown yesterday.
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Post by momrek06 on Jun 13, 2018 20:48:59 GMT
John Hamm is such a RIOT!!!!!!! I recently saw the Sneak Peek of TAG and it looks BEYOND HYSTERICAL!!!!!!!!
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Post by Cuddles on Jun 16, 2018 17:25:36 GMT
Meghan has tweeted...
I'm "whining", "hysterical", "a brat" - legitimately a curious if these labels and headlines would be directed at a strong man on television speaking his mind and being assertive. I'm a 33 year old woman on a show surrounded by people who mostly disagree with me. I'm STRONG.
and boy has it come back to her tenfold. Some of the replies are very carefully written, showing objectivity and thoughtfulness. Wonder if she will take any of their advice.
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 16, 2018 18:03:52 GMT
Dear View, please dont let them eat on live TV, Whoopie makes mess, and I cannot watch..( shudder)
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 16, 2018 18:04:51 GMT
Meghan has tweeted... I'm "whining", "hysterical", "a brat" - legitimately a curious if these labels and headlines would be directed at a strong man on television speaking his mind and being assertive. I'm a 33 year old woman on a show surrounded by people who mostly disagree with me. I'm STRONG. and boy has it come back to her tenfold. Some of the replies are very carefully written, showing objectivity and thoughtfulness. Wonder if she will take any of their advice. Umm, that's what she has been called on twitter..twitter is bonkers imho
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Post by AlwaysVeg on Jun 16, 2018 19:48:56 GMT
Dear View, please dont let them eat on live TV, Whoopie makes mess, and I cannot watch..( shudder) I kept waiting for food to fall out of her mouth while she was talking. It was gross. If she needs to eat during the show, why can't she confine it to the commercial breaks and swallow before the show starts again? It's like her compulsion to come out and swipe items off the tables during the deals segments, although I haven't seen her do it for a while. Maybe she was told to stop. I'm sure she can take whatever she wants as soon as the show is over. Does she have no self-control, or does she think the chewing and "stealing" are funny?
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 16, 2018 19:54:17 GMT
Dear View, please dont let them eat on live TV, Whoopie makes mess, and I cannot watch..( shudder) I kept waiting for food to fall out of her mouth while she was talking. It was gross. If she needs to eat during the show, why can't she confine it to the commercial breaks and swallow before the show starts again? It's like her compulsion to come out and swipe items off the tables during the deals segments, although I haven't seen her do it for a while. Maybe she was told to stop. I'm sure she can take whatever she wants as soon as the show is over. Does she have no self-control, or does she think the chewing and "stealing" are funny? I don't know AV.. But to me, it's not funny at all.
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Post by Cuddles on Jun 16, 2018 20:16:13 GMT
Meghan has tweeted... I'm "whining", "hysterical", "a brat" - legitimately a curious if these labels and headlines would be directed at a strong man on television speaking his mind and being assertive. I'm a 33 year old woman on a show surrounded by people who mostly disagree with me. I'm STRONG. and boy has it come back to her tenfold. Some of the replies are very carefully written, showing objectivity and thoughtfulness. Wonder if she will take any of their advice. Umm, that's what she has been called on twitter..twitter is bonkers imho Umm, I know. That's what she was talking about in her tweet. And if you read some of the responses that she's gotten, some of them align with opinions expressed here. It is my hope that she will take some of what she reads to heart and rethink how she is coming across to a lot of her audience. Twitter may seem bonkers to you, and to others, but with each passing day, we see more and more how it has become as legitimate as a registered letter in the mail. Mueller may be able to use some of DT's comments - ABC held Roseanne accountable for her comments...
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Post by Cuddles on Jun 16, 2018 20:20:50 GMT
Dear View, please dont let them eat on live TV, Whoopie makes mess, and I cannot watch..( shudder) I kept waiting for food to fall out of her mouth while she was talking. It was gross. If she needs to eat during the show, why can't she confine it to the commercial breaks and swallow before the show starts again? It's like her compulsion to come out and swipe items off the tables during the deals segments, although I haven't seen her do it for a while. Maybe she was told to stop. I'm sure she can take whatever she wants as soon as the show is over. Does she have no self-control, or does she think the chewing and "stealing" are funny? My impression, and I could very well be wrong, was that she and the other ladies are asked to "dig in" and act as though the food is scrumptious and basically irresistible. She, and the others, has/have done this when Trisha Yearwood has been on promoting her new cookbooks, as well as at other times for similar purposes. Again, it appears promotional, at least to me.
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Post by AlwaysVeg on Jun 16, 2018 20:32:22 GMT
I kept waiting for food to fall out of her mouth while she was talking. It was gross. If she needs to eat during the show, why can't she confine it to the commercial breaks and swallow before the show starts again? It's like her compulsion to come out and swipe items off the tables during the deals segments, although I haven't seen her do it for a while. Maybe she was told to stop. I'm sure she can take whatever she wants as soon as the show is over. Does she have no self-control, or does she think the chewing and "stealing" are funny? My impression, and I could very well be wrong, was that she and the other ladies are asked to "dig in" and act as though the food is scrumptious and basically irresistible. She, and the others, has/have done this when Trisha Yearwood has been on promoting her new cookbooks, as well as at other times for similar purposes. Again, it appears promotional, at least to me. Maybe for some food-related segments, but they didn't have to promote Rachael Ray and her guacamole. RR is already well promoted, and it's not like she's selling her guac, at least I don't think so. If they're promoting someone's cookbook or a restaurant, it's fine to take a bite on the air and ooh and aah, but then stop please! Eat during the commercials. I know it's a small thing, but all that chomping and talking with food in their mouths drive me crazy.
Re Meghan, I don't tweet or read twitter, so I don't know what was said, but if it convinces her to tone down the shrillness and defensiveness, not to mention all the complaining about how she's the odd-woman out on the panel (she knew that when she took the job), it's a good thing!
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 16, 2018 20:40:59 GMT
I think Meghan has toned it down. But I've said that before. Joy ate a little, but Meghan and Sara didn't eat. I doubt Sunny and her new extensions bothered. Did she seriously not know what a hall pass was?..
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