|
Post by acookertv on May 30, 2018 19:59:49 GMT
My husband thinks she knew very well what she was doing and she wanted to tank her show. In a way, it would not surprise me if that were true. Even though it's her show, it didn't feel like she was the face of the show anymore. Sara Gilbert was the one who was really passionately promoting it. Even Whitney Cummings and Laurie Metcalf were more vocal in supporting it. Maybe I was looking in the wrong places, but it seems like the only times I saw her talking about the show, it was TMZ-like video where someone captured her going somewhere and she answered a question. So I guess it could be possible that she agreed to do it again because everyone else was on board, but agreed to it for a given number of episodes. Then it became more long term, it wasn't representing HER voice, but the voices of Sara, Whitney, Wanda, etc and became more of an obligation than a passion. Who knows.
|
|
|
Post by libgirl2 on May 30, 2018 20:02:00 GMT
My husband thinks she knew very well what she was doing and she wanted to tank her show. libgirl2 Really, why would she want to do that? What were his thoughts on that? Soooooo many lives affected by this........lost employment......that is sick and selfish if she wanted to tank her own show. He didn't give a reason except that maybe she just didn't want to do it anymore. The woman has never exactly been stable. And it would be awful.
|
|
|
Post by libgirl2 on May 30, 2018 20:04:22 GMT
My husband thinks she knew very well what she was doing and she wanted to tank her show. In a way, it would not surprise me if that were true. Even though it's her show, it didn't feel like she was the face of the show anymore. Sara Gilbert was the one who was really passionately promoting it. Even Whitney Cummings and Laurie Metcalf were more vocal in supporting it. Maybe I was looking in the wrong places, but it seems like the only times I saw her talking about the show, it was TMZ-like video where someone captured her going somewhere and she answered a question. So I guess it could be possible that she agreed to do it again because everyone else was on board, but agreed to it for a given number of episodes. Then it became more long term, it wasn't representing HER voice, but the voices of Sara, Whitney, Wanda, etc and became more of an obligation than a passion. Who knows. I think that is a good theory.
|
|
|
Post by sweetmermaid1 on May 30, 2018 20:09:53 GMT
Roseanne has never cared about anybody but herself. She is showing her true colors and makes me sick.
|
|
ccl
FORT Regular
Posts: 432
|
Post by ccl on May 30, 2018 20:37:43 GMT
I think ABC made the right call. It sucks for the cast, but they knew what she was like when they signed on. She has a history of gross statements and opinions. It was a decent show and I grew up watching the original. They should kill off her character and let the show just be about Dan and the kids: the Connors. Rosanne was honestly the least funny part of the show. They can’t do that because Roseanne created the show so she owns the rights to the show premise/characters and would still economically benefit from such a situation. Another possibility would be a whole new show with new characters but with the same actors (apart from Roseanne). ew.com/tv/2018/05/30/roseanne-barr-abc-new-show-conners/
|
|
|
Post by redsoxgirl on May 30, 2018 20:54:38 GMT
Hate is not relegated to everyone in one group and it exists in some way in all groups. This feels especially true for people who are at the bottom of the economic totem pole. What we think, feel and believe as individuals is ignored-we are dumb, hillbilly rednecks who hate minorities, the LGBTQ community and Muslims. We are too stupid to know what is good for us. We HATE. It's an inaccurate summation at best. And that's where the divide is-that is where the frustration builds-when upper middle class people ASSUME and STEREOTYPE. They aren't listening to us because they are assigning blame and cherry picking the people in our group that most accurately reflec6s their stereotypes of the group. And that's why shows like Rosanne and The Middle were so important. Because those two families, though both struggling financially, gave us two very different viewpoints on how to cope with just getting by week to week. And I would argue that these shows were written with pinpoint accuracy and with a truth telling style that was both painfully funny and cut to the bone honest. Particularly because nothing really changes when you are at the bottom. Because, ultimately ones comfort and freedom is directly tied to economics. And there are a thousand reasons why this is so. And there are many other countries that surpass America in terms of freedoms and accessibility to things that can help pull one out of the bottom. America is great, but only if you've never had to live on the streets, sell plasma, couch surf, join the military, not out of patriotism, but because you are willing to risk your life in order to have an income that's steady or because if you survive you might qualify for college.Rosanne went there, or was going there had she not blown it up. But, plenty of us have experienced hate and it isn't relegated to one group and we've experienced generosity and empathy and that isn't relegated to one group. And we've learned how to survive on crumbs. There was nothing stupid about Rosanne or The Middle. Both spoke to millions of loyal viewers, because both shows treated their characters with enormous love, truth, dignity and respect. Some of the funniest moments happened during some of the worst situations. Because when you are poor, laughter becomes a survival mechanism. Both shows are gone now and so is their collective voice that represented so many of us. I can't change or fix what Roseanne chose to say anymore than I can fix what other actors have said about people who don't agree with their viewpoints. But, I wish I could. Because now there is one less show that reflects back to me, my life experience. And really, with the death knell of Rosanne and The Middle there aren't any shows left giving me and millions like me an accurate, dignified voice.
|
|
lonnie
FORT Addict
Posts: 1,255
|
Post by lonnie on May 30, 2018 22:32:01 GMT
Is there any way they could keep the character of Roseanne, but just replace her with a different actress like they had previously done with Becky? lol
|
|
|
Post by AlwaysVeg on May 30, 2018 22:39:19 GMT
Just heard on the national news that she has sent out some 200 tweets since her show was canceled, despite vowing yesterday to stay off Twitter ... including an image from Planet of the Apes next to a photo of Valerie Jarrett. I told you she's off her rocker!
No convincing argument here or anywhere that she was trying to tank the show. All she had to do was refuse to sign on for the additional season instead of all the elaborate and repulsive extra effort.
|
|
|
Post by Imperfect1 on May 30, 2018 23:16:08 GMT
Just heard on the national news that she has sent out some 200 tweets since her show was canceled, despite vowing yesterday to stay off Twitter ... including an image from Planet of the Apes next to a photo of Valerie Jarrett. I told you she's off her rocker!
No convincing argument here or anywhere that she was trying to tank the show. All she had to do was refuse to sign on for the additional season instead of all the elaborate and repulsive extra effort. And just when we thought the situation couldn't get any worse, are you ready for this???? Roseanne Barr says she may fight ABC firing, retweets claim Michelle Obama was behind ouster!!!www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/05/30/roseanne-barr-emboldened-by-support-theories-about-michelle-obama-on-twitter-to-fight-her-shows-cancellation.html
|
|
Punkin
FORT Addict
Hi, it's me, Lynda! Fort member since Jan. 16, 2003.
Posts: 1,024
Member is Online
|
Post by Punkin on May 31, 2018 0:03:01 GMT
Been a long day for me too, Jennifer! I've been busily posting in every show thread I watch all day. Sometimes only:
"Making a post just to get this show on my "Participated" list (my new "New" button). So, don't mind me. Just workin' on my plan."
Upside.… I've broken out of Newbie status! You only need 44 more posts to become a Junior like me!
Cocktail time!
|
|
|
Post by Amy Lee on May 31, 2018 0:07:46 GMT
I had a feeling that's what you were doing. 🤓 Been a long day for me too, Jennifer! I've been busily posting in every show thread I watch all day. Sometimes only: "Making a post just to get this show on my "Participated" list (my new "New" button). So, don't mind me. Just workin' on my plan." Upside.… I've broken out of Newbie status! You only need 44 more posts to become a Junior like me! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk
|
|
|
Post by Arielflies on May 31, 2018 1:44:17 GMT
Well she is sick and selfish (narcissistic) so maybe she did want this outcome...or she thought she could be like Trump (brag during campaign) and shoot someone and get away with it.
|
|
|
Post by momrek06 on May 31, 2018 2:53:25 GMT
|
|
Punkin
FORT Addict
Hi, it's me, Lynda! Fort member since Jan. 16, 2003.
Posts: 1,024
Member is Online
|
Post by Punkin on May 31, 2018 3:14:39 GMT
Hubris: exaggerated pride or self-confidence. It's what happens when bigots find that the leader of the land gets away with being openly bigoted, and fellow travelers think they can do it too without consequences. But this did not work so much for her. Now her 'supporters' are tweeting messages to encourage her to fight this firing. No freaking way that will happen. She hasn't a bigoted foot to stand on. It wasn't the Ambion. It's who she's been from the start. All entertainment contracts have a firing clause to enable them to dump shows or entertainers who bring embarrassment to the corporation. She did that. Bigly.
|
|
|
Post by redsoxgirl on May 31, 2018 5:47:37 GMT
|
|
|
Post by AlwaysVeg on May 31, 2018 13:46:57 GMT
It was disturbing to me that she decided to be combative with him and Sarah Gilbert for their well-justified comments that really were not nearly as harsh as they could have been. SG, especially, put a lot of effort into planning and arranging this reboot, so she had every right to be upset. Roseanne has no empathy or concern for other people and has some nerve striking out at anyone for responding appropriately to her vile behavior. I like people who are unique individuals, but not when they insult, harm, or disrespect others. I disliked her ever since she deliberately mangled and screeched The Star-Spangled Banner (although I don't know why anyone would ask her to sing it in the first place). Who does that, and why?
|
|
|
Post by momrek06 on May 31, 2018 14:37:02 GMT
What is so sad is RB just will not take accountability for her actions.
All her apologizes come with basically a "BUT".
If she had just come out and apologized and did not blame Ambein, Wanda Sykes, Michelle Obama etc then I think she may have been treated differently.
ABC would have still cancelled her show but like Kathy Griffin, she apologized for her poor behavior and then LEFT. Period. I think it was a year before she resurfaced.
But RB keeps slamming people and esp her former cast members who she had a relationship with.
So sad that those much younger than RB are way more mature than she will ever be.
|
|
|
Post by libgirl2 on May 31, 2018 14:50:43 GMT
What is so sad is RB just will not take accountability for her actions. All her apologizes come with basically a "BUT". If she had just come out and apologized and did not blame Ambein, Wanda Sykes, Michelle Obama etc then I think she may have been treated differently. ABC would have still cancelled her show but like Kathy Griffin, she apologized for her poor behavior and then LEFT. Period. I think it was a year before she resurfaced. But RB keeps slamming people and esp her former cast members who she had a relationship with. So sad that those much younger than RB are way more mature than she will ever be. I agree. Own up to what you did but she can't. Roseanne has never exactly been the paragon of stability so maybe we shouldn't be surprised by her reactions.
|
|
|
Post by momrek06 on May 31, 2018 14:55:06 GMT
|
|
mika06
FORT Regular
Posts: 342
|
Post by mika06 on May 31, 2018 14:56:18 GMT
libgirl2 Really, why would she want to do that? What were his thoughts on that? Soooooo many lives affected by this........lost employment......that is sick and selfish if she wanted to tank her own show. He didn't give a reason except that maybe she just didn't want to do it anymore. The woman has never exactly been stable. And it would be awful. So Tom Arnold is saying this in Interviews today that she purposely tanked the show.
|
|
|
Post by Gutmutter on May 31, 2018 15:10:16 GMT
Tom Arnold is an a$$ himself, so grain of salt.
|
|
mika06
FORT Regular
Posts: 342
|
Post by mika06 on May 31, 2018 15:25:49 GMT
Tom Arnold is an a$$ himself, so grain of salt. An A$$ but he was married to her so he would have better knowledge then a lot of people.
|
|
|
Post by AlwaysVeg on May 31, 2018 15:38:44 GMT
He didn't give a reason except that maybe she just didn't want to do it anymore. The woman has never exactly been stable. And it would be awful. So Tom Arnold is saying this in Interviews today that she purposely tanked the show. I didn't hear him say that, but I did see him say that she has mental issues, so it was just a matter of time before something like this would happen. Jimmy Kimmel also apparently said she has mental health problems that have to be taken into consideration. I don't know how Kimmel knows that. Did he see her medical records?
|
|
|
Post by momrek06 on May 31, 2018 15:40:19 GMT
|
|
mika06
FORT Regular
Posts: 342
|
Post by mika06 on May 31, 2018 15:49:19 GMT
So Tom Arnold is saying this in Interviews today that she purposely tanked the show. I didn't hear him say that, but I did see him say that she has mental issues, so it was just a matter of time before something like this would happen. Jimmy Kimmel also apparently said she has mental health problems that have to be taken into consideration. I don't know how Kimmel knows that. Did he see her medical records? I'm really not happy with Jimmy Kimmel on that and we need stop explaining away Racism this way. Racism is not a by product of Ambien or Mental Illness. People who are Mentally Ill are not all Racist and you do them a deservice by explaining her behavior away this way. Roseann has always been this way and even if she has some late in life mental issues this doesn't excuse her behavior at all.
|
|
|
Post by momrek06 on May 31, 2018 15:52:49 GMT
|
|
|
Post by libgirl2 on May 31, 2018 16:09:43 GMT
She can't let go, that is her problem.
|
|
|
Post by momrek06 on May 31, 2018 16:11:59 GMT
She can't let go, that is her problem. Such a hot mess. RB is BSC. Period.
|
|
|
Post by angelic_one2002 on May 31, 2018 21:11:32 GMT
As someone on the news just said, "Funny's funny until it's offensive." That goes for anyone.
|
|
|
Post by wannasee on May 31, 2018 22:09:08 GMT
I hadn't had a chance to try to find a way to watch it but I'm really bummed about this, because I LOVE Sarah Gilbert, Laurie Metcalf. Was really looking forward to seeing them in the show. I am just really sick about the stupid, demeaning things "celebrities" and those in power have the nerve to say (or tweet or whatever).
|
|