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Post by AlwaysVeg on Jan 31, 2020 18:05:23 GMT
Poor Randall! Great season so far. I was really hoping Sophia Bush would be Kevin's "person" too.... love her. And the way they had her dressed and her hair and mannerisms she seemed almost like a young Rebecca! BUT - maybe there is hope that he gets back with Sophie per the previews... It's *gotta* be Sophie for Kevin. I think she realized she still has strong feelings for him, so how can she marry the other guy? Plus, unless I'm confused by the timeline, she's been engaged for quite a while now and still not married. Maybe Kevin is the reason why. Also, she called him for comfort around her mother's death, and at the funeral home asked him to take her away. If Kevin suddenly gets engaged to someone else (and that's supposed to happen fairly soon, if I remember correctly), seems to me he would just be settling. Sophie is his true love.
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Post by cornholio on Jan 31, 2020 19:48:36 GMT
AlwaysVeg & Miss Scarlet, so happy you are still watching too!
It is great to see a nice solid family now that you mentioned it I guess there aren't too many shows anymore featuring that!
And YES, AlwaysVeg, it MUST be Sophie for Kevin. I'm sure he really, really messed things up with her, but he has done so much work on himself and is such a better person than he was when he and Sophie were teenagers. If she can forgive him and give him another chance I'm pretty sure he would work hard to not screw it up and they could have a happily ever after love story for the ages...
The one thing I've been noticing is that there are no longer many laughs on this show. I loved the roller coaster ride season one was - it kept us laughing and crying and not knowing what would come next.
The laughs seem to have disappeared and it's getting to be one big downer.
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Post by AlwaysVeg on Jan 31, 2020 22:38:20 GMT
I'm trying to remember laughing, and can't recall any specific scenes, but maybe some of when the Big 3 were little. After the fire and death of Jack, I think that was the turning point. I don't think of it as a downer, though, but I'd kind of like to see something heartwarming again, so if Kevin and Sophie get back together before the season is over, that would provide some welcome happy tears. We're probably headed for more trouble when Kate and Kevin find out that Randall has been hiding what's going on with Rebecca. This is one of my very few must-watch shows. Everything seems so realistic. It's stuff that can and does really happen in families.
Edited to add: Uh-oh, I just read a post on the previous page saying that the show's executive producer stated that Kevin's fiancee would be a new character whom we would meet in January. I hope it's not that nanny or whoever she was who he slept with after coming to see Kate. That boy better stop sleeping with whomever crosses his path. I don't want to see him impregnate someone he barely knows and then propose marriage to "do the right thing" and because he wants a child.
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Post by mina on Feb 1, 2020 13:39:48 GMT
I just caught up on the Jan. shows. Ugh, Madison......Kevin really messed up. And then he stayed in her bedroom talking on the phone to all his siblings about how messy their lives were/are while she was still sleeping???? I enjoyed Sophie and that storyline about her mother; I cried actually at her coffee story. Sophie is his forever love, but he messed up. I actually liked how her mother never gave him the special ring because he never earned it and in the end it was like her mother gave it to her to decide her own future. I never really liked Kate, but I enjoy seeing her with the baby. Toby, toby , toby........I hope she grows in confidence and leaves him. I don't care enough to see how her slimeball teenage boyfriend hurt her. How is it that Randall has NEVER been to therapy or counseling? If I were Beth, I would have insisted on that especially after his first breakdown. I love Malik's dad caring enough to go talk to Randall about therapy , but I hated how Randall blew him off. Have none of the big 3 ever been to therapy (except maybe Kevin to get sober?) ? Has Rebecca ever been to grief counseling?????
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 1, 2020 15:44:40 GMT
I don't mind Madidon,she has grown on me. I'm looking forward to Kate's story, I think we've guessed her skeevy boyfriend is abusing her, mentally or physically. Quite frankly, they all need counseling. Except for Miguel.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Feb 1, 2020 22:00:46 GMT
Edited to add: Uh-oh, I just read a post on the previous page saying that the show's executive producer stated that Kevin's fiancee would be a new character whom we would meet in January. I hope it's not that nanny or whoever she was who he slept with after coming to see Kate. That boy better stop sleeping with whomever crosses his path. I don't want to see him impregnate someone he barely knows and then propose marriage to "do the right thing" and because he wants a child. This really surprises me. I feel like there isn't enough time to introduce a new character, have Kevin fall in love, impregnate this new love and get engaged. I was hoping against hope that Sophie and Kevin would be end game. The way they introduced the grandparents' engagement ring, Sophie gazing at it at the end of the episode, etc....However, I read that the actress who portrays Sophie is in a new series and I think she is the lead. So, it stands to reason that she won't be back as Kevin's baby mama. I don't mind Madison. I recently found out that she is married to the show's creator. You'd think she's be featured more prominently.
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Post by AlwaysVeg on Feb 2, 2020 15:21:23 GMT
Edited to add: Uh-oh, I just read a post on the previous page saying that the show's executive producer stated that Kevin's fiancee would be a new character whom we would meet in January. I hope it's not that nanny or whoever she was who he slept with after coming to see Kate. That boy better stop sleeping with whomever crosses his path. I don't want to see him impregnate someone he barely knows and then propose marriage to "do the right thing" and because he wants a child. This really surprises me. I feel like there isn't enough time to introduce a new character, have Kevin fall in love, impregnate this new love and get engaged. I was hoping against hope that Sophie and Kevin would be end game. The way they introduced the grandparents' engagement ring, Sophie gazing at it at the end of the episode, etc....However, I read that the actress who portrays Sophie is in a new series and I think she is the lead. So, it stands to reason that she won't be back as Kevin's baby mama. I don't mind Madison. I recently found out that she is married to the show's creator. You'd think she's be featured more prominently. I was hoping that might be an attempt to throw us off, as things often don't go in an anticipated direction, but now that I know the actress got another series, looks like this is the truth. I am not happy about it! Why bring Sophie back with that whole story line and the ring, just to have Kevin wind up months later with someone he couldn't possibly be in love with?! That's so sad. What's the point? Kevin is on the rebound from his love for Sophie, so just decides to marry whoever comes along next? If the EP's statement is literal, it can't be Madison because she's not a new character. I really need to see some joy on this show, and there appears to be none in sight.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 2, 2020 20:20:27 GMT
I thought Sophie was too obvious. I think they will always be very good friends. I thought when Kevin visited Kate, that he got on well with Madison, they clicked. That's when I turned to hubby, and said these two make a good couple.So I wasn't surprised he was with her, will it last? who knows. I know she's been a great friend to Kate, and that's not easy.
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Post by MissScarlet on Mar 11, 2020 9:36:09 GMT
What ever happened to Miguel? I haven't seen him in weeks & when Rebecca speaks of him, it seems to be in the past. You'd think with her dementia, he'd be involved. Did I miss something?
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Mar 11, 2020 13:30:24 GMT
You didn't miss anything, MissScarlet. Miguel has never been fully fleshed out by the writers. Randall, although he had good intentions, was steamrolling both Kevin and Kate to agree to the drug trial for Rebecca. At the very least that should have been a conversation with Becca AND MIGUEL, HER HUSBAND! I had hoped by now we'd have found out more about how Miguel and Becca got together but I guess not. I liked how the plot of going to the Met was included in all 3 time periods. Randall has become insufferable over the seasons; he should have had counseling way before now. To carry that heavy burden and guilt about his dad's death is not healthy. Plus, there was nothing he could have done to prevent it.
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Post by AlwaysVeg on Mar 11, 2020 14:12:53 GMT
I haven't watched last night's episode yet, but Miguel was present during the previous episode when he suggested Rebecca and Kevin spend the day together without him. He was at the doctor appointment with them at the end of that day, too. I read an article at the beginning of this season in which an EP said that the story of Miguel and how he and Rebecca got together would be told eventually, but it's apparently not this season.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 11, 2020 19:41:15 GMT
I liked last nights episode but I found some parts bored me. Randall is a mess. I loved Rebecca enjoying the red carpet, with Kevin.
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Post by MFWalkoff on Mar 11, 2020 21:18:08 GMT
I keep waiting for Randall to have "the big breakdown" but it's definitely coming.
But that last scene where Randall rewrote history in his mind about the fire really hit me where I lived. I got misty.
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Post by sunnydayz on Mar 17, 2020 23:59:52 GMT
Randall was completely unlikeable in this episode.
Loved Kevin and his mom having fun together. They certainly have an ease with each other.
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Post by MissScarlet on Mar 18, 2020 3:03:32 GMT
Randall was completely unlikeable in this episode. Loved Kevin and his mom having fun together. They certainly have an ease with each other. I thought so too, right up 'till the very end with his plea to his mother. That was heartwrenching.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 18, 2020 4:18:17 GMT
Well I wept, about the 15 minute mark, I just lost it. Sterling eyes , not quite crying ( yet) then we saw the very talented Randall junior..it was a great episode, and I wept.
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Post by AlwaysVeg on Mar 18, 2020 20:59:51 GMT
It didn't matter to me whether he was likeable - he has a mental illness (anxiety disorder), and we saw in his therapy session how very afraid he is of losing Rebecca, the last of his parents, while still having issues with her about hiding the truth about his bio father. Put those issues together, and you have someone who might not behave in a very likeable manner. SKB was magnificent - what great acting! This episode was intense. I can only imagine how powerful the season finale will be next week.
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Post by MissScarlet on Mar 25, 2020 3:28:56 GMT
All in all, not a bad episode. Was it the Season Finale? However, I was so totally confused all through it. The jumping back & forth, & forward & back, etc. was just too much. There had to be 6-10 time frames involved. Ultimately it was good, but it was a mess. Who on earth was the red headed girl with the horse? What time frame was she? How does she fit into any of this? Was future Jack, if that's who he was, still blind? So many other people/children popping in an out of scenes & I just kept wondering if they were a part of this story, or just random people who happened to be there.
As to Kevin & Randall's very mean argument & the cruel things they both said, I didn't have any respect for either one of them by the end of it.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 25, 2020 3:39:02 GMT
All in all, not a bad episode. Was it the Season Finale? However, I was so totally confused all through it. The jumping back & forth, & forward & back, etc. was just too much. There had to be 6-10 time frames involved. Ultimately it was good, but it was a mess. Who on earth was the red headed girl with the horse? What time frame was she? How does she fit into any of this? Was future Jack, if that's who he was, still blind? So many other people/children popping in an out of scenes & I just kept wondering if they were a part of this story, or just random people who happened to be there. As to Kevin & Randall's very mean argument & the cruel things they both said, I didn't have any respect for either one of them by the end of it. I was bored, and confused. I like Madison. The best part was seeing Hartley and Brown argue, great acting , from them both. It was a meh finale imo.
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Post by Jamie5632 on Mar 25, 2020 21:20:13 GMT
Red-haired girl was the daughter of Madison's gyno. He had a picture on his desk of the girl on the horse and used her line of "you haven't even given him a chance to be himself yet" when Madison was talking about why she hadn't told Kevin.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 25, 2020 21:54:14 GMT
Red-haired girl was the daughter of Madison's gyno. He had a picture on his desk of the girl on the horse and used her line of "you haven't even given him a chance to be himself yet" when Madison was talking about why she hadn't told Kevin. I guess we'll see her next season. I love that Jack has a sister.
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Post by MissScarlet on Mar 25, 2020 21:56:21 GMT
Red-haired girl was the daughter of Madison's gyno. He had a picture on his desk of the girl on the horse and used her line of "you haven't even given him a chance to be himself yet" when Madison was talking about why she hadn't told Kevin. Thank you. I wasn't even sure who Madison was until she came to see Kevin. Nice to see that, under the circumstances, he handled it very well. 2 points for Kevin.
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Post by MFWalkoff on Sept 1, 2020 12:59:19 GMT
This is cute...
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Oct 28, 2020 4:40:52 GMT
I had no idea the premiere was tonight. I crawled into bed around 10:30, turned on the TV and it was on. Fortunately the DVR was set to record new episodes so I was able to watch. 2 hour premiere with limited commercials. They touched on COVID-19, and went way back to when Randall's birth mom told William she was pregnant. It was a very topical episode and very well-acted by Sterling. I did feel for Kate, though. I understand the point Randall was trying to make but it was a different time 40 years ago, or even 30 years ago. I think Jack and Rebecca did the best they could. They certainly loved Randall with all their heart.
Boy and girl twins for Kevin and Madison. I'm still confused then about that preteen son of Kevin in the future. If it's supposed to be 15 years in the future, is this Kevin's third child?
The ending!!! Laura ( is that bio mom's name?) didn't die.
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 28, 2020 5:00:47 GMT
I had no idea the premiere was tonight. I crawled into bed around 10:30, turned on the TV and it was on. Fortunately the DVR was set to record new episodes so I was able to watch. 2 hour premiere with limited commercials. They touched on COVID-19, and went way back to when Randall's birth mom told William she was pregnant. It was a very topical episode and very well-acted by Sterling. I did feel for Kate, though. I understand the point Randall was trying to make but it was a different time 40 years ago, or even 30 years ago. I think Jack and Rebecca did the best they could. They certainly loved Randall with all their heart. Boy and girl twins for Kevin and Madison. I'm still confused then about that preteen son of Kevin in the future. If it's supposed to be 15 years in the future, is this Kevin's third child? The ending!!! Laura ( is that bio mom's name?) didn't die. Laurel, wasn't that something. Loved these two hours , especially Randall talking with Malik.
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Post by MFWalkoff on Oct 28, 2020 7:51:37 GMT
I have lots of nitpicks about the ending with Randall's mom, but otherwise, I'm so happy to have this show back again.
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Post by MissScarlet on Oct 28, 2020 19:51:48 GMT
I also didn't know this was the Season Premier. I was watching The Bachelorette, but checked the listings right about the time that was ending and managed to tape the last hour. Haven't watched it yet. They sure didn't give us much warning or lead up this year. I would have hoped for them to rerun the last 1 or 2 episodes before jumping into the new season. I've almost forgotten how it ended last season. Anyhow, I'll watch Part 2 & hope I can get caught up & remember last season. Poor planning on their part.
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Post by mina on Dec 15, 2020 16:28:21 GMT
Wow, I'm way behind with this show! I didn't even know it was coming back this fall! With virtual school and meetings and covid daily living fog, I'm completely out of the loop! Maybe I'll binge it next week when I have some down time!
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Post by tapper01 on Mar 2, 2021 2:32:43 GMT
so picking up last episode. Randalls 3 driving to a fancy place (Kevin;s) I am assuming . Desja pregnant, who are they going to see? Is beth gone> What is going on?
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Post by rockytopchick on Mar 3, 2021 0:57:42 GMT
It's the house Kevin had built on the land where the family cabin is. They are all gathering to say goodbye to Rebecca. Beth has been shown in previous flash forwards to have already arrived at the house.
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