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Post by waywyrd on Aug 20, 2021 13:46:02 GMT
Christina on the Coast - I cringed when I saw she was going to get her paws on a neat old mid-century modern. No muted earth tones or cool mid-century style lighting fixtures here - we got white uppers, white backsplash, white counters, white walls and boring recessed lights. At least she used walnut lowers and they saved the blocks outside (which I know she hated). Le sigh.
I kind of wanted them to put an electric fireplace where that old gas one was - but she just cleared it out and made an empty corner. High design.
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Post by Bearcata on Aug 21, 2021 2:48:56 GMT
Christina on the Coast - I cringed when I saw she was going to get her paws on a neat old mid-century modern. No muted earth tones or cool mid-century style lighting fixtures here - we got white uppers, white backsplash, white counters, white walls and boring recessed lights. At least she used walnut lowers and they saved the blocks outside (which I know she hated). Le sigh. I kind of wanted them to put an electric fireplace where that old gas one was - but she just cleared it out and made an empty corner. High design. I don't think the new home owners wanted the fireplace. What I don't understand you have a budget of $100,000 that should include updating the electrical and plumbing. Really the folding doors were never talked about during the design process, a potential $10,000 to $20,000 item was never discussed. The total budget of this reno was $137,000 for a new kitchen, a new living room. What the heck did they do in the living room besides remove the old non working electric fireplace? They had to put in a new concrete floor, they painted the walls, new furniture. For that amount of money the entire house should have been redone. I just do not get the prices. Seriously, it should have been $10,000 - new electrical, $10,000 - new plumbing, $10,000 - new folding door, $10,000 to $20,000 removing wall and doing structure, $10,000 - new concrete floor. That is $50,000 to $60,000 right there. Then you have $40,000 left for a new kitchen and living room. But $37K in overages and it took 6 months to do?
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Post by waywyrd on Aug 21, 2021 13:18:50 GMT
I know they didn't want that old fireplace, but she could have totally fit a nice new electric one under the spot they have their TV mounted and made that a feature. *shrug* And I agree - for $137K I could redo my entire house, easily. And buy a new car.
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Post by Kao on Aug 21, 2021 17:23:26 GMT
Christina on the Coast - I cringed when I saw she was going to get her paws on a neat old mid-century modern. No muted earth tones or cool mid-century style lighting fixtures here - we got white uppers, white backsplash, white counters, white walls and boring recessed lights. At least she used walnut lowers and they saved the blocks outside (which I know she hated). Le sigh. I kind of wanted them to put an electric fireplace where that old gas one was - but she just cleared it out and made an empty corner. High design. I don't think the new home owners wanted the fireplace. What I don't understand you have a budget of $100,000 that should include updating the electrical and plumbing. Really the folding doors were never talked about during the design process, a potential $10,000 to $20,000 item was never discussed. The total budget of this reno was $137,000 for a new kitchen, a new living room. What the heck did they do in the living room besides remove the old non working electric fireplace? They had to put in a new concrete floor, they painted the walls, new furniture. For that amount of money the entire house should have been redone. I just do not get the prices. Seriously, it should have been $10,000 - new electrical, $10,000 - new plumbing, $10,000 - new folding door, $10,000 to $20,000 removing wall and doing structure, $10,000 - new concrete floor. That is $50,000 to %60,000 right there. Then you have $40,000 left for a new kitchen and living room. But $37K in overages and it took 6 months to do?I don't watch this show but it might have to do with where she is located and when this was shot. I think she's in California and it costs a lot more to do home improvements there than in the East Coast/ Midwest/ Southern markets. There was a reason why that crazy brother/sister duo I like to hatewatch moved their show from the West Coast to Philly; it was where they are originally from, and it's cheaper to get things done. The Rona also screwed up transport issues for materials so people either had to pay a lot more for raw materials or wait to have their projects done.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Aug 21, 2021 19:10:50 GMT
I don't think the new home owners wanted the fireplace. What I don't understand you have a budget of $100,000 that should include updating the electrical and plumbing. Really the folding doors were never talked about during the design process, a potential $10,000 to $20,000 item was never discussed. The total budget of this reno was $137,000 for a new kitchen, a new living room. What the heck did they do in the living room besides remove the old non working electric fireplace? They had to put in a new concrete floor, they painted the walls, new furniture. For that amount of money the entire house should have been redone. I just do not get the prices. Seriously, it should have been $10,000 - new electrical, $10,000 - new plumbing, $10,000 - new folding door, $10,000 to $20,000 removing wall and doing structure, $10,000 - new concrete floor. That is $50,000 to %60,000 right there. Then you have $40,000 left for a new kitchen and living room. But $37K in overages and it took 6 months to do?I don't watch this show but it might have to do with where she is located and when this was shot. I think she's in California and it costs a lot more to do home improvements there than in the East Coast/ Midwest/ Southern markets. There was a reason why that crazy brother/sister duo I like to hatewatch moved their show from the West Coast to Philly; it was where they are originally from, and it's cheaper to get things done. The Rona also screwed up transport issues for materials so people either had to pay a lot more for raw materials or wait to have their projects done. Are you sure it's in Philly? I thought it was Pittsburgh but could be mistaken as I watched it once or twice and didn't care for it.
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Post by Kao on Aug 21, 2021 20:44:24 GMT
I'm sorry, it was Pittsburgh. I always get the two confused!
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Post by Bearcata on Aug 21, 2021 21:02:19 GMT
I don't think the new home owners wanted the fireplace. What I don't understand you have a budget of $100,000 that should include updating the electrical and plumbing. Really the folding doors were never talked about during the design process, a potential $10,000 to $20,000 item was never discussed. The total budget of this reno was $137,000 for a new kitchen, a new living room. What the heck did they do in the living room besides remove the old non working electric fireplace? They had to put in a new concrete floor, they painted the walls, new furniture. For that amount of money the entire house should have been redone. I just do not get the prices. Seriously, it should have been $10,000 - new electrical, $10,000 - new plumbing, $10,000 - new folding door, $10,000 to $20,000 removing wall and doing structure, $10,000 - new concrete floor. That is $50,000 to %60,000 right there. Then you have $40,000 left for a new kitchen and living room. But $37K in overages and it took 6 months to do?I don't watch this show but it might have to do with where she is located and when this was shot. I think she's in California and it costs a lot more to do home improvements there than in the East Coast/ Midwest/ Southern markets. There was a reason why that crazy brother/sister duo I like to hatewatch moved their show from the West Coast to Philly; it was where they are originally from, and it's cheaper to get things done. The Rona also screwed up transport issues for materials so people either had to pay a lot more for raw materials or wait to have their projects done.This is season 3, the prices have been crazy from day one on this series so you can't blame the high prices on the pandemic. While prices do vary across the country, I live near the capitol, yes, I see crazy prices, but when I watch Good Bones and the ladies on that show can build a house for $150,000 and Christina can only do a kitchen and living room there is a big problem.
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Post by Bearcata on Aug 21, 2021 21:26:13 GMT
I know they didn't want that old fireplace, but she could have totally fit a nice new electric one under the spot they have their TV mounted and made that a feature. *shrug* And I agree - for $137K I could redo my entire house, easily. And buy a new car. I could redo my entire house, finish my basement, and do the landscaping with some hardscaping thrown in.
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Post by Kao on Aug 21, 2021 23:34:11 GMT
Fair enough; I don't watch the show so I've only been aware of recent price surges due to the Rona. I was not aware that her costs been high since the beginning so possibly a few things might be happening here:
1. Regional construction and material cost.
2. Price gouging her clients. People will pay more to say "So and So designed my house." I was in undergrad with someone who majored in interior design who got pretty popular with the upscale crowd here and was able to charge quite a bit more once he was established, and he was constantly enraged at the fact that even though he was making a fair amount of money he didn't make as much as Nate Berkus (Chicago local and star of Nate and Jeremiah and his direct competition).
3. Upcharging on everything: I learned this from the friend I mentioned in #2. Generally, designers get the vast amounts of material (tile, bathtubs, cabinets, furniture, etc) wholesale from design showrooms that only sell to people in the business (ie: interior designers, set designers, etc) and what they do is pad the costs. So basically, a double bathroom sink they paid $3500 for will cost the client like 5k but some enterprising sorts will charge something like 7k...and their clients won't even blink at the cost. This isn't an uncommon thing to do and for the most part most designers will try not to take advantage. On the other hand, there are designers who will only charge the actual cost of the item and labor associated with installing it.
In Christina's case I think it's 1 and 2, possibly 3.
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Post by Bearcata on Aug 22, 2021 1:00:16 GMT
Fair enough; I don't watch the show so I've only been aware of recent price surges due to the Rona. I was not aware that her costs been high since the beginning so possibly a few things might be happening here: 1. Regional construction and material cost. 2. Price gouging her clients. People will pay more to say "So and So designed my house." I was in undergrad with someone who majored in interior design who got pretty popular with the upscale crowd here and was able to charge quite a bit more once he was established, and he was constantly enraged at the fact that even though he was making a fair amount of money he didn't make as much as Nate Berkus (Chicago local and star of Nate and Jeremiah and his direct competition). 3. Upcharging on everything: I learned this from the friend I mentioned in #2. Generally, designers get the vast amounts of material (tile, bathtubs, cabinets, furniture, etc) wholesale from design showrooms that only sell to people in the business (ie: interior designers, set designers, etc) and what they do is pad the costs. So basically, a double bathroom sink they paid $3500 for will cost the client like 5k but some enterprising sorts will charge something like 7k...and their clients won't even blink at the cost. This isn't an uncommon thing to do and for the most part most designers will try not to take advantage. On the other hand, there are designers who will only charge the actual cost of the item and labor associated with installing it. In Christina's case I think it's 1 and 2, possibly 3.Absolutely agree.
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Post by Kao on Aug 22, 2021 19:16:18 GMT
In Christina's defense, certain areas of California are getting really expensive now so everything costs more, and there's a lot of new money types thanks to the Tech field that honestly feel like the more you pay for things the better they must be. If she's doing things properly and the client loves the results then good for her because the folks there will literally rain money on her to do her thing so they can brag about "having my living room designed by Christina Haacke, HGTV star." Everyone is getting what they want so there really aren't any losers here. Personally, I would rather have the Boise Boys or the Hometown folks work on my place but some people really like that stark white and grey look she does; look at all the people on House Hunters who want "all white everything with a pop of gray!" from the kitchen to the spare room.
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Post by Bearcata on Aug 22, 2021 20:33:06 GMT
In Christina's defense, certain areas of California are getting really expensive now so everything costs more, and there's a lot of new money types thanks to the Tech field that honestly feel like the more you pay for things the better they must be. If she's doing things properly and the client loves the results then good for her because the folks there will literally rain money on her to do her thing so they can brag about "having my living room designed by Christina Haacke, HGTV star." Everyone is getting what they want so there really aren't any losers here. Personally, I would rather have the Boise Boys or the Hometown folks work on my place but some people really like that stark white and grey look she does; look at all the people on House Hunters who want "all white everything with a pop of gray!" from the kitchen to the spare room. When ever I see one of these white on white on white kitchens I get this urge to tip over a glass of red wine on the counter or accidently spill black coffee on the floor.
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Post by Bearcata on Aug 23, 2021 14:02:04 GMT
Battle on the Beach - Behind the Scenes - August 22, 2021
Well HGTV aired 2 hours of "behind the scense" stuff. There was extra footage of the mentors, living in their trailers behind the 3 houses being renovated. Alison was running a juice bar for the crew and judges, Taniya was running a coffee bar for the crew and judges.
Lots of little extra scenes, looking like everyone was getting along, spying sessions, bloopers, storms, showing each set of renovations and little extras.
About 10 minutes before it all ended they finally showed some of the real estate judges review of all three properties and they showed a deeper discussion between Mina and Mike about the three properties.
Mina and Mike: 1. Felt Sunjay and Darryl hit all the boxes appealing to the masses. Mina did note that there is a fine line between appealing to the masses and playing it safe and Mina felt they played it too safe.
2. Felt Kerry and David did a good job, especially with the living room and changing the way the direction of the stairs. I felt Mina really liked that.
3. While the Mike and Mina felt Shonnie and Josh did a good job they felt this market was not the right place for their design style.
4. While Mina and Mike did not come out and say who they felt should of won after this conversation I got the impression they felt Sunjay and Darryl should have.
Real Estate Evaluation: 1. Liked Sunjay and Darryl's kitchen, liked the ice maker it was a value added due to being on the beach. Were confused by the wagon wheel light fixture. I thought it was fine, but the one realtor said "it's that farmhouse style, it is so overdone, and some people do not get it right".
2. Kerry and David - did not like the open shelving, where do you store all of your cereal boxes. Luv'ed that comment. While they liked that Kerry and David changed the direction of the stairs and opened up the living room, the comment about the fireplace was that it was not beachy?? or not the right style?? or needed??
Note: I do watch Vacation House Rules and the design team does use open shelving they use it thoughtfully. The entire point of a rental property is making it easy for the guests to find the dishes, pots and pans etc... so in Vacation House Rules they will have glass fronted kitchen cabinets so the guest can see the dishes, they will have a designated coffee and tea bar with open shelving because it makes sense to have it there.
3. Shonnie and Josh - the judges liked the paneling (shocked me, I thought it was awful and brought down the look of the house). They liked the antique doors into both bathrooms. Did not like the dark curtains especially in the living room as they blocked the million dollar view.
I do wish they had shown more of the real estate evaluation to get a better understanding of what added value to the homes and I do wish we really had a better understanding of what Mike and Mina where looking at.
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Post by Kao on Aug 23, 2021 16:33:54 GMT
Finally! A premiere date for Luke and Clint's (Boise Boys) new show!
I like this new trend that HGTV is leaning into; I noticed it with the Fords new show, 50k 3Ways, and The Property Brother's Forever Home. More shows are getting away from renovating new properties for people and instead are focusing on making things better for people who want to stay in their homes but want it to work better for their needs. As many people who are moving now there are many more that are opting to stay put and reno for themselves, not some future buyer. Looking forward to watching Outgrown.
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Post by waywyrd on Aug 23, 2021 16:37:30 GMT
Nice! I hate that they stuck it on Saturday nights, though.
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Post by Bearcata on Aug 24, 2021 11:56:39 GMT
Finally! A premiere date for Luke and Clint's (Boise Boys) new show! I like this new trend that HGTV is leaning into; I noticed it with the Fords new show, 50k 3Ways, and The Property Brother's Forever Home. More shows are getting away from renovating new properties for people and instead are focusing on making things better for people who want to stay in their homes but want it to work better for their needs. As many people who are moving now there are many more that are opting to stay put and reno for themselves, not some future buyer. Looking forward to watching Outgrown.
Not that I don't mind the flipping it is so refreshing to see the home renovation shows. Luv 50K Three Ways, liking Breaking Bland. So nice to see color again and not simply white, black, grey. So glad to see Luke and Clint back. Saw a commercial for the new series on the last part of the Beach on the Battle Behind the Scenes episodes.
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Post by woodiedog on Aug 24, 2021 23:19:00 GMT
Thanks Bearcata for the summary of Battle on the Beach - Behind the Scenes - August 22, 2021. Sounds like a worthwhile watch! I am going to check it out on demand.
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Post by Bearcata on Aug 25, 2021 17:20:41 GMT
Good Bones Season 6 Episode 9 - From Teardown to Italian Treasure - August 24, 2021
It is so funny watching this episode as the timing of filming it is all over the place and so obvious with Mina's baby bump appearing and disappearing and Karen's hair going from red to blonde silver and back several times.
In last week's episode where the ladies opened up their new store front, Two Chicks District Co Karen had a designated Karen's Corner for the items she makes. In this episode it looks as if Karen has her own store front, named of course, Karen's Corner. I did like that both Cory and MJ came to help and did a very nice job refurbishing the rolling wheel cart.
Note: Mina mentioned that 2 Chicks and a Hammer had 11 employees but with the opening of the Two Chicks District Co store front she will now be employing 22 people. I think I read this in an article last week.
I absolutely adore that the ladies always try to support local craftsmen and in this episode we saw a very nice wall mural painted by a local artist named Justin and of course a very nice stair rail by Iron Timbers.
I luv the recessed door in this house and that the ladies created a comfortable enclosed front porch with room for a chair, the door also has a sidelight and that is so useful to be able to observe any visitors.
I really didn't think much about the siding on the house as I would have been OK with just one kind of siding as that is what I am used to seeing. I luv'ed Mina's explanation of why they used 2 types of siding and 3 different colors, the regular horizontal siding in beige and white, and the board and batten siding in chocolate brown and visually it was interesting, modern, and fun.
Liked the deck on top of the garage that served as outdoor space. This house is truly on a zero sized lot (the house basically sits on the entire lot). I do wish they had shown both floors of the architectural plans better as there was a full sized bedroom, bathroom, laundry room, and utility room on the ground floor. The house also looked as if it had amble storage but access to it was not shown.
Overall this was a very nice home, I liked the Italianate style they were going for especially with the wall mural. I do like the details, of the marble insert with the butcher block countertops, I like the marble backsplash, and the faux Venetian plaster, and mixing the metals (matte black and gold) in a purposeful way. I can see what Mina was talking about in her judge comments about Sunjay and Josh on Battle on the Beach as far as checking all the boxes for the masses but needing to tweak it a bit for a better polished design. Two Chicks did not go over board spending money on expensive materials, they used vinyl siding with a bit of imagination, as well as the mixing of matte black and gold finishes for the faucets and cabinet pulls. They also used a different scale of tile on the kitchen backsplash and it looked great. Overall their design looked high design with out screaming very expensive high design. Yes, I am poking at Christina Haack and Tarek El Moussa's frequent "high design" commentary regarding their flips.
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Post by waywyrd on Aug 26, 2021 14:43:09 GMT
Good Bones - I see that three colors of siding thing on new builds around here pretty often, it didn't look bad at all on theirs. And they used a lot of white/gray/black in this one, but it didn't look boring like some of Christina's stuff. They had the mural, faux Venetian plaster, wood and gold accents and plenty of plants and textured staging to make it look inviting instead of sterile. And they finally made a decent profit!
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Post by Bearcata on Aug 27, 2021 3:44:29 GMT
Good Bones - I see that three colors of siding thing on new builds around here pretty often, it didn't look bad at all on theirs. And they used a lot of white/gray/black in this one, but it didn't look boring like some of Christina's stuff. They had the mural, faux Venetian plaster, wood and gold accents and plenty of plants and textured staging to make it look inviting instead of sterile. And they finally made a decent profit! It was hard to see but the walls of the house were a very light beige a bit of a throwback to that Tuscan villa vibe. They were mixing beige and grey quite a bit in the textures and you could see that in the mural. It works.
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Post by Bearcata on Aug 27, 2021 13:11:58 GMT
Another wow episode of Christina on the Coast with a couple that has a $150,000 budget. This time the budget makes sense as both the kitchen and family room are huge. The couple wants bifold folding glass door in both the dining room and family room to the tune of $20,000 to $40,000. Those doors are expensive. Of course the budget is blown $30,000 over by the end of the episode, but in this case the couple can afford it. I don't think Christina has an awareness of how much money that is as she blows through hers with endless weekend trips for her kids and dropping $2.4 million on a 24 acre farm house in Tennessee. Is there a bit of envy, maybe a tinge but seriously, when does this woman have time to do anything with all of her shopping trips, luncheons on boats, posting boyfriend stuff on Instagram. Would anyone notice if she changed boyfriends as long as she had a body there to check that box. Thank goodness James is there to do the design work. And Yes, it does seem like Christina does like to rub people's faces in how great her life is to the point I would be laughing out loud if it all crash and burned. Christina's daughter, Taylor is also coming across like a diva/demanding spoilt brat.
Wow, shock of my life the color palette is light wood floors, grey and white shaker cabinets and wait for it, herringbone tile backsplash. I did like the distressed grey cabinets like that it showed the wood grain but it was a standard Christina grey and white kitchen with herringbone backsplash. It's like plug and play.
Did like the white and gold tile for the family room fireplace surround.
Luv'ed the fireplace in the living room, very nice modern take on a fireplace.
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Post by waywyrd on Aug 27, 2021 15:54:28 GMT
I was trying to think of something memorable about last night's Christina on the Coast...I got nothing. The tile with the gold in it was okay, I guess, as was the more modern fireplace - but I wish they had put some kind of hearth on that one, I don't like the floor going right up to the firebox. I kind of preferred the bay window that was there over the single window they added, too. But they insisted on more counter space and a football field sized island, so whatever. I laughed when they showed her going window shopping for "new tile trends" with James and then she picked the same old things. Psh.
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Post by Bearcata on Aug 27, 2021 16:59:14 GMT
I was trying to think of something memorable about last night's Christina on the Coast...I got nothing. The tile with the gold in it was okay, I guess, as was the more modern fireplace - but I wish they had put some kind of hearth on that one, I don't like the floor going right up to the firebox. I kind of preferred the bay window that was there over the single window they added, too. But they insisted on more counter space and a football field sized island, so whatever. I laughed when they showed her going window shopping for "new tile trends" with James and then she picked the same old things. Psh. I am pretty sure they put a small tile hearth inset into the floor. What irked a bit was the lack of consistency of styles. The family bookcases and fireplace read somewhat modern traditional vs the living room fireplace read more contemporary. You would not know that they were in the same house. I do appreciate that each episode does give me something new to be irked about and allows for a bit of creative bashing; that I like very much.
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Post by waywyrd on Aug 27, 2021 17:37:22 GMT
I swear I didn't see a hearth! This is why I wish HGTV wouldn't be so slack about posting pics of the shows - they didn't even do their usual before-and-after clip on Twitter for this one.
This guy cracked me up though:
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Post by Bearcata on Aug 28, 2021 5:53:50 GMT
I swear I didn't see a hearth! This is why I wish HGTV wouldn't be so slack about posting pics of the shows - they didn't even do their usual before-and-after clip on Twitter for this one. This guy cracked me up though: I went back and checked, you were right no hearth in the living room which makes no sense.
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Post by Bearcata on Aug 28, 2021 17:28:04 GMT
I was watching Love It or List It this morning and realized that many times the renovation budget is around $120,000; Hilary can practically do the entire house for that budget and it looks very classy and high design. Christina needs to take some lessons.
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Post by Kao on Aug 28, 2021 18:11:28 GMT
Are these new episodes? I used to love that show but after a while they had WAAAAAY too many people on it who want too much damn candy for a penny, and getting angry and rude to both Dave and Hillary because they can't give them what they want under the conditions they stipulate. We're talking people who want extra bedrooms, a fixed kitchen and overhauled bathrooms for 40k and who want to stay in the same neighborhood but don't want to pay that price. Seeing people call Hillary every thing but a child of God as well as seeing David get criticized for bringing them to a house they can actually afford and is nice but is "20 minutes to my job and that's too much" got really hard to watch and it's a shame because it was such a lighthearted, fun show when it started.
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Post by Bearcata on Aug 28, 2021 19:41:22 GMT
Are these new episodes? I used to love that show but after a while they had WAAAAAY too many people on it who want too much damn candy for a penny, and getting angry and rude to both Dave and Hillary because they can't give them what they want under the conditions they stipulate. We're talking people who want extra bedrooms, a fixed kitchen and overhauled bathrooms for 40k and who want to stay in the same neighborhood but don't want to pay that price. Seeing people call Hillary every thing but a child of God as well as seeing David get criticized for bringing them to a house they can actually afford and is nice but is "20 minutes to my job and that's too much" got really hard to watch and it's a shame because it was such a lighthearted, fun show when it started. Yes, they still produce new episodes. The show is scripted, let's face it they want a renovation and they film the ending both ways. I do think they feed some lines to the homeowners. I love the ones who live in a 1500 sq ft home want and extra bedroom and bathroom, office and playroom and want everything to be light and airy on $70,000. The ones who complain about a 20 minute or more commute need to be shot out of a canon with no landing pad provided.
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Post by MFWalkoff on Aug 28, 2021 21:50:44 GMT
I was watching Love It or List It this morning and realized that many times the renovation budget is around $120,000; Hilary can practically do the entire house for that budget and it looks very classy and high design. Christina needs to take some lessons. Or Christina should move her show from California to North Carolina to get more for her budget dollars. Technically it's still on a coast, too, although Hillary and Dave never seemed to do houses near the water... Because of the pandemic, LIOLI's new season will be located back in Canada, like the early years.
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Post by Bearcata on Aug 29, 2021 1:43:55 GMT
I was watching Love It or List It this morning and realized that many times the renovation budget is around $120,000; Hilary can practically do the entire house for that budget and it looks very classy and high design. Christina needs to take some lessons. Or Christina should move her show from California to North Carolina to get more for her budget dollars. Technically it's still on a coast, too, although Hillary and Dave never seemed to do houses near the water... Because of the pandemic, LIOLI's new season will be located back in Canada, like the early years. What can Christina do on a limited budget? Luv to see her go head to head with Tiffany from $50k Three Ways. $50K is based in Chicago and that is not a cheap area to live and Tiffany's renovations are way more impressive than Christina's for less money.
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